Social Impact of Wuhan Virus

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Newson closes Virginian until June

Governor Northam Issues Statewide Stay at Home Order

RICHMOND—Governor Ralph Northam today issued a statewide Stay at Home order to protect the health and safety of Virginians and mitigate the spread of the novel coronavirus, or COVID-19. The executive order takes effect immediately and will remain in place until June 10, 2020, unless amended or rescinded by a further executive order.

The order directs all Virginians to stay home except in extremely limited circumstances. Individuals may leave their residence for allowable travel, including to seek medical attention, work, care for family or household members, obtain goods and services like groceries, prescriptions, and others as outlined in Executive Order Fifty-Three, and engage in outdoor activity with strict social distancing requirements.

The executive order also directs all Virginia institutions of higher education to stop in-person classes and instruction. Private campgrounds must close for short-term stays, and beaches will be closed statewide except for fishing and exercise.

“We are in a public health crisis, and we need everyone to take this seriously and act responsibly,” said Governor Northam. “Our message to Virginians is clear: stay home. We know this virus spreads primarily through human-to-human contact, and that’s why it’s so important that people follow this order and practice social distancing. I’m deeply grateful to everyone for their cooperation during this unprecedented and difficult time.”

https://www.governor.virginia.gov/ne...855702-en.html

[Badger52]

"...engage in outdoor activity with strict social distancing requirements."

Gotcha. Ok buddy, you stay up there & run the trolling motor, I'll stay back here near the live-wells and if we gotta run, it's balaclava time.

[The Reaper]

Are the Dims so desperate that they would have their governors unnecessarily tank their own economies to try and damage the POTUS?

This could be a CoA given the lack of viable Dim POTUS candidates at this point.

Not improbable in a Cloward and Pliven driven strategy.

TR

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Are the Dims so desperate that they would have their governors unnecessarily tank their own economies to try and damage the POTUS?

This could be a CoA given the lack of viable Dim POTUS candidates at this point.

Not improbable in a Cloward and Pliven driven strategy.

TR

And yet the POTUS has gained in approval in the polls

Classic strategy to put the people on their knees and then offer them the solution of Socialism

[LongWire]

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

And yet the POTUS has gained in approval in the polls

Classic strategy to put the people on their knees and then offer them the solution of Socialism

I'm wondering if his numbers reflect his walking back the "open by Easter" message?

[Ret10Echo]

It's coming to this:

JOHNSTOWN, Pa. (WJAC) — A man coughing and not covering his mouth led to shots fired at a Johnstown Sheetz, according to a criminal complaint.

Police say officers were called to the Sheetz on Broad Street last Saturday for reports of shots fired into an occupied vehicle.

Police say the driver of the vehicle, 53-year-old William Sauro, drove away from the scene and called 911 from his home.

Here

There is video of the incident on the site as well

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by LongWire

I'm wondering if his numbers reflect his walking back the "open by Easter" message?

Possible he needed to....I prefer to believe it is John and Jane Q Public aren't buying into the medias taking advantage of this to try to stop him in 2020.....it is hard to do but a search of other credible experts in the field commenting on the virus following the same seasonal pattern of flu because heat is inhospitable for these viruses so his initial comment about it being like the flu? is not entirely wrong

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

Possible he needed to....I prefer to believe it is John and Jane Q Public aren't buying into the medias taking advantage of this to try to stop him in 2020.....it is hard to do but a search of other credible experts in the field commenting on the virus following the same seasonal pattern of flu because heat is inhospitable for these viruses so his initial comment about it being like the flu? is not entirely wrong

Thanks for your insights thus far. I have to remind myself that the media (and those who use it) are extremely graphic-oriented. While not disputing the issues in the metro hives, they are the big flares on the map. Other states with middlin' numbers that might actually be seeing the case doubling rate flattening are less likely to get recognized as something positive when the political kritters in the big cities get in front of their microphones to exhibit their thrice daily gnashing of teeth & flailing of arms and, just for good measure, Orange Man Bad.

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by Badger52

Thanks for your insights thus far. I have to remind myself that the media (and those who use it) are extremely graphic-oriented. While not disputing the issues in the metro hives, they are the big flares on the map. Other states with middlin' numbers that might actually be seeing the case doubling rate flattening are less likely to get recognized as something positive when the political kritters in the big cities get in front of their microphones to exhibit their thrice daily gnashing of teeth & flailing of arms and, just for good measure, Orange Man Bad.

The silver lining to this entire thing is here in the U.S. over 60,000 died from the flu last season over 650,000 worldwide....the prevention of spread is exactly the same things that this virus requires that first world nations have been advised to do for years....I suspect the fear and panic this has caused has energized people to actually follow the same advice they have been taught their whole lives when sick...I imagine next years flu fatalities will be lower as it is this year and the pharma and medical industrial complex will be hurting next year and have to drum up some other way to scare people into overmedicating and or submitting to medical care. DO NOT INVEST IN ANY MEDICAL stocks NEXT SEASON....the winners this year are the online businesses and delivery services...the losers are the restaurant, commercial gyms, and bar worlds

[frostfire]

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

The silver lining

. DO NOT INVEST IN ANY MEDICAL stocks NEXT SEASON....the winners this year are the online businesses and delivery services...the losers are the restaurant, commercial gyms, and bar worlds

Concur w the silver lining. I’m positive GI diseases will be less too

Pharmac esp the chloroquine manufactures and those in the race to vaccine are doing well now.

I’m on the sideline calculating if movie theatres, malls, reit w nursing homes, cruises, and airlines are worth scooping
The fear of bankruptcy is near if not already at max

[Pete]

Originally Posted by frostfire

...I’m on the sideline calculating if movie theatres, malls, reit w nursing homes, cruises, and airlines are worth scooping.....

Nursing homes, cruises and airlines will always be with us.

Due to on line ordering and crime (teenagers wilding) foot traffic at some Malls have been trending down.

Movie Theaters? Been a lot of turmoil there. Sales are up but are they filling the seats? Lot of pushing back and forth the last couple of years between the makers and theaters.

I'd say before sinking tons of money into the two a great deal of research would need to be done.

[LongWire]

Malls are definitely not worth it, unless of course you are looking at repurposing.

I know that Google swallowed up the Westwood mall in L.A., Im thinking that they are using it as a server farm, of course they kept the food court.....

My point is that Amazon is killing Malls across America. Millennials aren't going to the Mall, they are getting together on Insta and Tik Tok etc....YMMV

[Penn]

Pete: The definition of: Sage advise.

[frostfire]

Thank you Pete and LongWire for the insight.
Even if some continue to drop, it does make one smile to pay half than Buffet


Back to social impact, I wonder if the final toll will affect the West and particularly US view on sanctity of life, family dynamics i.e. taking care of parents at home, etc.
IMHOO, the western culture tends to cling to every last bit of life (Nothing wrong as that tendency gave force to unsurpassed medical discoveries). This is just from my own experience of over a decade in healthcare. The elderly and terminally ill die in hospital with every tube and machine connected, surrounded by strangers (medical staff). Back in my pediatric emergency room work, I could not recall a single code (with CPR) I did where the patient made it. Even after ROSC, the patient passed later in PICU. Maybe I'm just falling to the folly of selective bias, but perhaps my peers see the same with this pandemic?
I can't imagine how it must be in the old inner city ER. We were already busy with regular trauma, seasonal flu, cancer, etc. Then comes COVID as +1
That's why I'm encouraged by stories like this one
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12321379
Obviously I have a personal bias. I taped my DNR and DNI papers to my dogtags every time I jumped. I've had a good run.

[Penn]

Restaurant will be very challenged to reopen and will be required by new social norms being instituted to expand spacing between tables, effecting COS, to keep margins - price increases may not be tolerated.