05-14-2015, 22:54
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The Secret World of a Green Beret
http://www.nytimes.com/1982/07/04/ma...een-beret.html
While conducting a little research on SF history in Vietnam, and specifically MACV-SOG, I stumbled upon this rather interesting article from 1982, which makes quite a number of extraordinary claims, especially in regard to the operations in Thailand, Cambodia, and Libya.
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Thompson never returned to Latin America, but he reported that two years later several of his fellow Green Berets secretly took part in the capture and killing of Che Guevara, the Cuban revolutionary leader. Thompson's description of the operation in Bolivia was confirmed by another former Green Beret who was a participant, and by former Defense Department and intelligence officials who were involved. All of them asked not to be identified.
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Next, Thompson was ordered to join a covert operation in Thailand run by the Army and the C.I.A. Supervised by the MACV-SOG (Military Assistance Command, Vietnam-Special Operations Group), the mission involved the training of Thai special-forces teams, followed by their deployment with Green Berets to interdict the Ho Chi Minh trail.
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He described the work when he talked to Thompson but he did not reveal that he had been dismissed several weeks earlier because he had assisted the former agents Wilson and Terpil in obtaining explosive timers for shipment to Libya. Wilson and Terpil, it was later discovered, had signed an agreement with Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi to help train terrorists.
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With that being said...
Do any QP's from that era have any comments regarding the substantive nature of the claims made in the article?
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05-15-2015, 01:31
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Most sounds like BULL SHIT!!
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05-15-2015, 03:22
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Most sounds like BULL SHIT!!
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Or A script for a seal team 6 movie,, The Expendables XII??
Butt POTUS was Jimmy Carter.
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05-15-2015, 03:26
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Me thinks he's probably BFF with Dick-head Marc_inko. Both can apparently weave a fictional story surrounded by unsubstantiated non-fictional facts.
I think the the U.S. Government (aka CIA) can only claim credit for one 20th Century assassination or complicity: Mohammad Mosaddegh, Iran, 1953. That has turned out so well...
But then what the hell I do I know. I stared at goats, sometimes all night long.
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05-15-2015, 03:35
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I stared at goats, sometimes all night long.
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Is that some kind of muslim porn?
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05-15-2015, 03:39
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Is that some kind of muslim porn?
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Ha! Only if it would sell a book or make a movie.
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05-15-2015, 04:23
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Is that some kind of muslim porn?
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Derka, derka?
Reference Che, there is plenty of information out there how he met his demise. Yes SF had a "hand" or two in it.
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05-15-2015, 04:27
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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick
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But then what the hell I do I know. I stared at goats, sometimes all night long.
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Yeah.... all night, all day, for weeks on end. They called it training.
And then there was the Trojan Warrior Program.....
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05-15-2015, 04:58
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MACV-SOG (Military Assistance Command, Vietnam-Special Operations Group),
He did not even get this one right.
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05-15-2015, 05:07
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"The Secret World of a Green Beret"
I'm imagining a kids cartoon, where the
"Garry the Green Beret",
comes alive each night and slips off of Staff Sergeant Jackson's night stand,
to conduct covert ops against the evil empire of the "Civilian Clothes Overlords"...
...actually not a bad idea....do I get Executive Producer Credits.
S
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05-15-2015, 05:46
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Yeah.... all night, all day, for weeks on end. They called it training.
And then there was the Trojan Warrior Program.....
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I was just going too say....but, you beat me to it.
As to the article, BS seasoned with a couple of irrelevant facts to lend credibility (what Old Dog said). And he couldn't even get MACVSOG correct.
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05-15-2015, 07:18
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Pappy Shelton's team from the 8th SFGA was responsible for training and advising the Bolivian troops that ran Che to ground. Veritas, the USASOC Office of the Historian quarterly pub, had an issue several years ago dedicated to the 8th SFGA and that mission. Their team set up a training camp in the heart of Che's GWOA and was in the process of training the second Bolivian Ranger battalion when the 1st battalion ended Che's campaign.
The original mission of the 46th SF Co included a number of personnel with SOG experience for training Thai forces as described - the mission changed several times during the unit's existence in Thailand.
And so it goes...
Richard
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05-17-2015, 23:56
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SEA Operations and the tattle tales who live on their war stories
It was a nytimes story. That's about enough said. Through the late 60's and earl;y 70's, the Nytimes ran their asses off trying to get a MACVSOG story. They found a blank wall. Nobody would speak to them. The same s - - t that CNN did in the 90's.
We will never be free from persons of low moral character that would rather have a story rather than allow secret opns alone, and stay under the radar.
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Originally Posted by bushmaster11
It was a nytimes story. That's about enough said. Through the late 60's and earl;y 70's, the Nytimes ran their asses off trying to get a MACVSOG story. They found a blank wall. Nobody would speak to them. The same s - - t that CNN did in the 90's.
We will never be free from persons of low moral character that would rather have a story rather than allow secret opns alone, and stay under the radar.
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And we all know how that worked out for CNN......
CNN, if it ain't lies we don't run it......
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