04-14-2017, 10:45
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Perpetual Crisis
Kongress creates perpetual crisis state in order to leverage greater political capital, which simply exacerbates budget and policy issues that really matter.
Thank you Gen. Paul Selva, Vice Chairman of Joint Chiefs
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“If it makes you feel better, we are all making history. We’ve had the longest period in American history where Congress has been unable to deliver a budget on schedule. We’ve had the longest period in American history where we have not complied with constitutional budget order and we have the first administration in the history of the United States that has transitioned under a continuing resolution.” Selva said during an April 13 Air Force Association breakfast in Arlington, Virginia. “Congratulations. All of your names will be in a history book somewhere. They should be in a history book as the American citizens who lost faith in the ability of Congress to do its job.”
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Here from Federal News Radio
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Reason: Thanks Peregrino for correction on word selection
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04-14-2017, 12:18
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Originally Posted by Ret10Echo
Kongress creates perpetual crisis state in order to leverage greater political capital, which simply exasperates budget and policy issues that really matter.
Thank you Gen. Paul Selva, Vice Chairman of Joint Chiefs
Here from Federal News Radio
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Exasperates or exacerbates? (Hint: I'm exasperated because those a**holes are exacerbating the entrenched budget and policy problems left over from the previous administration.)
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04-14-2017, 13:39
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Originally Posted by Peregrino
Exasperates or exacerbates? (Hint: I'm exasperated because those a**holes are exacerbating the entrenched budget and policy problems left over from the previous administration.)
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Ha! Thanks....
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04-15-2017, 08:54
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Originally Posted by Ret10Echo
Kongress creates perpetual crisis state in order to leverage greater political capital, which simply exacerbates budget and policy issues that really matter.
Thank you Gen. Paul Selva, Vice Chairman of Joint Chiefs
Here from Federal News Radio
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A good case for term limits IMO!
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01-18-2018, 16:33
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Well, here we are nearly a year on and the Federal Government is failing to execute one of the few things they are supposed to do...
4 budgets in 40 years....
So who is at fault?
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Article 1 Section 7 of the United States Constitution states: “All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.”
Article 1 Section 9 clause 7 says: “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.”
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01-18-2018, 17:36
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Both parties are more interested in their own power than doing their job. They don't give a rats ass about the public.
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This sums it all up, period. Even Lyndsey Graham said today, words almost a quote, we could solve it in 10 minutes if we wanted to. No one in DC gives a shit enough to want to.
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01-18-2018, 17:55
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This sums it all up, period. Even Lyndsey Graham said today, words almost a quote, we could solve it in 10 minutes if we wanted to. No one in DC gives a shit enough to want to.
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Exactly!
The Senate majority leader should change the rules to simple majority and ram legislation down Democrats throats while they can...because if the Dems take the chamber, that is precisely what they will do.
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01-18-2018, 19:05
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Out of the house and over to senate...
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The GOP controls the Senate 51-49 and will need a substantial number of Democratic votes to reach 60 — the number needed to end Democratic delaying tactics. Republicans were all but daring Democrats to scuttle the bill and force a shutdown because of immigration, which they said would hurt Democratic senators seeking re-election in 10 states that Trump carried in 2016.
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Funny (funny - sad, not funny-haha) that dims motivation is for non-citizens (but then again they consider that their voter-base).
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01-18-2018, 20:14
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As Mark Levin said and I paraphrase: they want to shut down the government of their own 30+ million people for 800k foreigners.
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01-18-2018, 21:41
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As Mark Levin said and I paraphrase: they want to shut down the government of their own 30+ million people for 800k foreigners.
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Because this is about reelection, not about the American people.
True stripes are shown here.
So many will miss that point.
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01-19-2018, 05:29
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It's always about reelection with these ass clowns....they care more about themselves, their power, their perks, and their misguided agendas then the American people. I feel like a Serf.......
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01-19-2018, 09:18
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The 'Iron Triangle' is alive and well in American politics. The problem is, too many government officials have perverted the concept for self-enrichment.
Liberals and of course those that choose to go through life with blinders on, scoff at any such suggestion that we, as a nation, operate within the confines of some sort of shadow government.
guffaw - harrumph - harrumph
Charles Baudelaire once said, “La plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas." - many folks would recognize the Keyser Söze version of the quote, 'The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.' Our government officials cant allow anyone to think that there is some kind of "power behind the throne" because it would ruin their scam - Folks become multi-millionaires as public servants. How it is possible for so many of these hacks manage such a lavish lifestyle on a salary of 174,000 dollars a year amazes me - unless you consider the possibility that they are 'owned' by their constituents.
Nah - that could never happen in aMErica
Think about this - anytime you think the Clintons are powerful , you should ask yourself, "who made the Cintons so rich?"
...THAT is who has the real power - whoever is bankrolling these crooked fucks.
-Special interest groups enrich our Politicians
-Congress passes budget increases
-Budget increases enrich the special interest groups
For example - AARP lobbies the House and Senate subcommittees on aging; these committees tinker around with the failing Social Security Administration; the SSA Bureaucrats prosecute policies and procedures that continue to enrich the AARP.
..old people still get fucked
...tax payers still get fucked
...young people will eventually get fucked
...social security is still fucked
Susan Collins and Bob Casey give LESS than two fucks about social security - they are entitled to FERS after five years of service (convenient that a senate term is six years) - tax payers and old people don't know the fucking difference because most of them only get their news from Sean Hannity and George Stephanopoulos. AARP is happy because they enjoy collecting membership payments from folks that are convinced that the AARP is looking out for them.
AARP is to old people what gangster protection was to small businesses in the 1930's. Meanwhile, we have politicians worth tens of millions of dollars - all on a salary of 170 grand per year.
How?
Some of them made their money by building their wealth and then getting into politics - but most of them got into politics in order to build their wealth. Any one of us would go to jail for using the same investment strategies that politicians are allowed to enrich themselves with.
Getting things done is a HORRIBLE way of getting filthy rich. Committee membership and three martini lunches is where the money is at.
...just my opinion - I could be wrong
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01-19-2018, 09:31
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Originally Posted by Box
Folks become multi-millionaires as public servants. How it is possible for so many of these hacks manage such a lavish lifestyle on a salary of 174,000 dollars a year amazes me - unless you consider the possibility that they are 'owned' by their constituents.
Think about this - anytime you think the Clintons are powerful , you should ask yourself, "who made the Cintons so rich?"
...THAT is who has the real power - whoever is bankrolling these crooked fucks.
-Special interest groups enrich our Politicians
-Congress passes budget increases
-Budget increases enrich the special interest groups
Some of them made their money by building their wealth and then getting into politics - but most of them got into politics in order to build their wealth. Any one of us would go to jail for using the same investment strategies that politicians are allowed to enrich themselves with.
...just my opinion - I could be wrong
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LOL...Nope, you are not wrong (at least I don't think you are) ....Just call those hacks "Political Whores"..... because we are the ones that really get "Smfucked" in the end while they sip their cocktails with their Pimps; Special Interest Groups... Typical Washington BS, suck us dry while you enjoy your nice nest egg....Bastards...Ha...
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01-19-2018, 10:01
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Because this is about reelection, not about the American people.
True stripes are shown here.
So many will miss that point.
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If there is a "shutdown" then the dems will own it. This is not their finest moment and with Trump at the helm I am certain that plenty of noise will be made and that the finger will be pointed at them. They underestimate Trumps following. It just boggles my mind that their loyalties lie more with people who entered this country illegally than with the honest hard working Americans who sign their paycheck.
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01-19-2018, 10:21
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Hey, you 535 meatsticks, yeah you! Your rucksa... er, your Mickey Mouse lunch boxes are in the hall. The Bluebird will be by to shuttle you to the airport. Any questions? Why?
1. Repeated failure to perform a critical core function for which you were hired.
2. BFYTW.
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