08-27-2018, 18:03
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I have no opinion on this subject...
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08-28-2018, 11:53
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RIP. Thanks for your military service not so much for political service. May your family fin comfort.
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08-28-2018, 18:34
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RIP
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08-29-2018, 08:21
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Here's something to think about... Suppose he had run for president again in 2012 and won, then re-electied in 2016. With his passing, Sarah Palin would now be president...
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08-29-2018, 14:17
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So just who is the small, petty one in all this? Trump or McCain?
Appears Gov. Palin has not been invited to any of the services or the funeral.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...rvices-report/
She's the only reason he did as well as he did in that election. He then stabbed in in the back. Her response? Endorse him in his next election.
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08-29-2018, 15:09
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Here's something to think about... Suppose he had run for president again in 2012 and won, then re-electied in 2016. With his passing, Sarah Palin would now be president...
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Aaannndddd she would still be a much better POTUS than Killery or uncle Joe.
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08-29-2018, 15:16
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Aaannndddd she would still be a much better POTUS than Killery or uncle Joe.
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That rates a HUGE +1
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08-30-2018, 04:51
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RIP. Thanks for your military service not so much for political service. May your family fin comfort.
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Second the motion.
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08-31-2018, 21:38
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Speaking of POWs
McCain passing brings up this issue again. What happened to the ones left behind. I. work at SERE with CSM Dan Pitzer and he always thought that the government screwed them over. Here is an interesting read. Look at they hyperlinks for more interesting information. http://www.unz.com/article/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/
The question I have is, does JPAC use Forensic Anthropology to determine the approximate age of death and then extrapolate the approximate date of death. Now that might be some information to have.
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09-01-2018, 08:31
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We should all live our lives as if the words spoken and the tears shed at our funeral will be true and honest reflections of who we were in life. We should be worthy of those words and tears because of how we lived.
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09-01-2018, 10:31
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(I have so tried to stay away from this thread)
The “Maverick” should be remembered for many things; being honorable should not be one of them.
Sen. John McCain (D/RINO) the epitome of a privileged life! (With one exception - that so many others have experienced in war without the stardom or even acknowledgment of their sacrifice.)
In life and in death your derision and contempt are clear examples of the many definitions of ‘Maverick’ the best synonym being: enfant terrible!
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09-01-2018, 11:17
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Originally Posted by Uman
McCain passing brings up this issue again. What happened to the ones left behind. I. work at SERE with CSM Dan Pitzer and he always thought that the government screwed them over. Here is an interesting read. Look at they hyperlinks for more interesting information. http://www.unz.com/article/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/
The question I have is, does JPAC use Forensic Anthropology to determine the approximate age of death and then extrapolate the approximate date of death. Now that might be some information to have.
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They do use DNA tests and all the CSI forensics from the TV, but I suspect that age is not one of the tests.
I had a 2 hr discussion with the JPAC NCOIC when my uncle was recovered from Tarawa in the South Pacific. The documentation was presented on a cd with 21 reports, totaling some 250 pages.
One major problem with recoveries in sub-tropics is the decomposition due to climate as it affects bio mater. The moulds and bacteria destroy a lot of useable material.
In my uncle's case, they used a tooth for DNA and cross-referenced his dental records to the recovered jaw bone.
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09-01-2018, 12:42
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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick
(I have so tried to stay away from this thread)
The “Maverick” should be remembered for many things; being honorable should not be one of them.
Sen. John McCain (D/RINO) the epitome of a privileged life! (With one exception - that so many others have experienced in war without the stardom or even acknowledgment of their sacrifice.)
In life and in death your derision and contempt are clear examples of the many definitions of ‘Maverick’ the best synonym being: enfant terrible!
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I have tried as well but let's see, how long has this circle jerk been going on... Over a year now? The players in this matter tell you all you need to know. None of them were concerned about my position and the constant yammering has grown very tiresome. So I'll share a comment that stood out, a quote from Mark Twain:
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it. "
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09-01-2018, 14:12
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Sen. John McCain (D/RINO) the epitome of a privileged life!
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Here's a better definition of "privileged." Growing up in your daddy's penthouse in NYC, and getting the crooked family doctor to tell the draft board you can't serve in the military (during the height of the Vietnam War) because you have "bone spurs." Five deferments, and not one day of service. When I was going through Boot Camp in 1969, my drill instructors would have referred to someone like this as a "slimy, draft dodgin' civilian puke." Yours would have said the same, or worse.
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09-01-2018, 14:26
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Here's a better definition of "privileged." Growing up in your daddy's penthouse in NYC, and getting the crooked family doctor to tell the draft board you can't serve in the military (during the height of the Vietnam War) because you have "bone spurs." Five deferments, and not one day of service. When I was going through Boot Camp in 1969, my drill instructors would have referred to someone like this as a "slimy, draft dodgin' civilian puke." Yours would have said the same, or worse.
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The thread title is about John S. McCain III, not about Donald Trump (POTUS). Regardless of what you, your drill sergeant had to say, or Trumps doctor at the time of the Vietnam war...having a valid excuse to stay in school, avoid the draft or join the Air National Guard was considered a good thing.
Maybe the others who rose to the Office of POTUS since Eisenhower (Gen-Ret) should have taken a page from McCain or Kerry whom both have questionable service records.
I would really appreciate your in-depth knowledge on this matter. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder instead of a spur in your foot.
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