02-20-2011, 12:06
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Wounded Vet Heckled at Columbia
Disgusting.
Hero's unwelcome
Wounded Iraq vet jeered at Columbia
By ANNIE KARNI
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...#ixzz1EWWtSAfC
Columbia University students heckled a war hero during a town-hall meeting on whether ROTC should be allowed back on campus.
"Racist!" some students yelled at Anthony Maschek, a Columbia freshman and former Army staff sergeant awarded the Purple Heart after being shot 11 times in a firefight in northern Iraq in February 2008. Others hissed and booed the veteran.
Maschek, 28, had bravely stepped up to the mike Tuesday at the meeting to issue an impassioned challenge to fellow students on their perceptions of the military.
"It doesn't matter how you feel about the war. It doesn't matter how you feel about fighting," said Maschek. "There are bad men out there plotting to kill you."
Several students laughed and jeered the Idaho native, a 10th Mountain Division infantryman who spent two years at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington recovering from grievous wounds.
Maschek, who is studying economics, miraculously survived the insurgent attack in Kirkuk. In the hail of gunfire, he broke both legs and suffered wounds to his abdomen, arm and chest.
He enrolled last August at the Ivy League school, where an increasingly ugly battle is unfolding over the 42-year military ban there.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...fde4355b01%2C0
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02-20-2011, 12:25
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02-20-2011, 12:26
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Good for him for standing up. That's what happens when sheep who have been part of the flock their whole lives finally meet a sheepdog.
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02-20-2011, 12:36
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Good for him. Maybe he can wake up a few sheeple while he's there.
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02-20-2011, 12:48
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There is nothing wrong with a difference of opinion on going to war. I don't have a problem with their point of view on Iraq or Afghanistan. I do have a problem with their behavior and disrespect. That is what is shameful.
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02-20-2011, 12:54
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FWIW, the Columbia Spectator's digital morgue of articles on ROTC dating back to 2007 is available here.
FWIW, part two, a passage in the article linked in the OP states:
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A group of 34 faculty colleagues, including historian Kenneth Jackson and former Bloomberg adviser Esther Fuchs, plan to announce their support of ROTC tomorrow.
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That statement of support is available here.
Professor Jackson is a former president of both the Organization of American Historians and the Society of American Historians--the two major professional organizations for American historians--as well as a winner of the prestigious Bancroft Prize for Crabgrass Frontier in 1986 << LINK>>.
The fact that Professor Jackson supports ROTC at Columbia suggests that attitudes towards the American armed services in the Ivory Tower are changing, notwithstanding the inexcusable asshattery of a handful of undergraduates.
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02-20-2011, 13:17
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I guess he thought that he had First Amendment protection.
Obviously, he failed to read the liberal/progressive rule book.
Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism.
Where is the POTUS on this issue?
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02-20-2011, 13:55
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The behavior of those students who heckled a fellow student in this instance was simply ignorant and repugnant - class always shows.
Good luck with your studies Mr. Maschek - thank you for your service.
Guess these asshat students don't want the Dream Act either.
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02-20-2011, 14:41
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Kinda sounds like the Columbia students were enrolled in the PoliSci Department's Tea Party 101 class so they can attend Town Hall meetings and behave accordingly when they grow up.
Just sayin'...
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02-20-2011, 14:53
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When I see people like that in public around here. I just think, if they burst into flames right now. I wouldn't even kick sand on them. I believe the new name for them is Hipsters. Another word for Pussy.
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02-20-2011, 14:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard
Kinda sounds like the Columbia students were enrolled in the PoliSci Department's Tea Party 101 class so they can attend Town Hall meetings and behave accordingly when they grow up.
Just sayin'...
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Hmm.
Was SSG Maschek someone's elected representative? Were they debating his voting record? I must have missed that one.
Did a Tea Party member at a town hall meeting call some else a racist? What is the relevance of that analogy to this discussion of student intolerance of opposing viewpoints?
There is no excuse for the students' behavior. SSG Maschek was there to voice an opinion as a student. A right he has paid a high price for and which should permit him to freely express his viewpoint.
I think your analogy is flawed and your comments are over the line with this one.
TR
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02-20-2011, 15:10
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Sir, I am sincerly at a loss for words re your analogy so I'll borrow one...
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Originally Posted by Richard
Kinda sounds like the Columbia students were enrolled in the PoliSci Department's Tea Party 101 class so they can attend Town Hall meetings and behave accordingly when they grow up.
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Astounding.
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02-20-2011, 16:07
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Does anyone think a student like Maschek was naive enough to think his appearance in front of such a forum at a university like Columbia over a long-standing 'hot button' campus political topic would not garner such a response from his fellow students?
I don't.
I think the realm of public discourse in politics remains every bit as rancorous today as it ever has been, whether on a college campus over an issue like this one or in a town hall meeting over an issue like national health care, and the reporting of such events every bit as slanted depending upon the editorial leanings of who is doing the reporting.
I also think that such boorish behavior reflects most upon those who behave in such a way - no matter where it comes from or who does it.
Richard
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02-20-2011, 16:19
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How about those students at Columbia just shut the fuck up and go down to Texas and help build a house.
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ad.php?t=32478
I'm sorry for my language.
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02-20-2011, 16:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shar
Several students laughed and jeered the Idaho native, a 10th Mountain Division infantryman who spent two years at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington recovering from grievous wounds.
Maschek, who is studying economics, miraculously survived the insurgent attack in Kirkuk. In the hail of gunfire, he broke both legs and suffered wounds to his abdomen, arm and chest.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...fde4355b01%2C0
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That's totally unwarranted and pisses me off about as bad as anything ever has. Somebody needs corporal punishment.
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