Milley

[JimP]

Originally Posted by tom kelly

Why does the U S Military need @ 44 or 45 four star generals to "Lead" a force of 1.2 million ?....Talk about a waste of money....Ticket Punchers....Future Consultants to the Military Industrial Complex...Living a life of luxury serving them selves...

At one point in Iraq, i counted over 200 GO/Flags in the green zone. 2-effing-hundred. No wonder our shit was all fucked up.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by JimP

At one point in Iraq, i counted over 200 GO/Flags in the green zone. 2-effing-hundred. No wonder our shit was all fucked up.

I recall in 2002 when Rumsfeld was upset when he found it was only a handful of company-grades and a bunch of NCO's that were managing to take over a country.

Sometimes I wonder if GO billets aren't simply created for the express purpose of having another "who's a good boy" that will be beholden to the politikritters.

[Box]

Let’s have a show of hands…

Given the current track record of most current day flag officers - do you really want any of them directly responsible for the health, welfare, and tactical employment of MORE than 2090 human lives at any one time ???

The way I see it - if our successes over the last 20 years is any indicator - we probably need to see MORE flag officers - let’s try to spread the incompetence thin enough that it doesn’t cause any more failure than we are already saddled with…


More is better and at this rate - what harm can it do

[Scimitar]

Originally Posted by Box

Let’s have a show of hands…

Given the current track record of most current day flag officers - do you really want any of them directly responsible for the health welfare and tactics al employment of MORE than 2090 human lives at any one time ???

The way I see it - it our successes over the last 20 years is any indicator - we probably. See MORE flags officers to spread the incompetence thin enough that you t doesn’t cause any more failure than we are already saddled with


More is better

lol, classic!
Kind of a derivation of the Peter principle
People in a hierarchy tend to rise to their maximum level of incompetence.

S

[Hacksaw]

In April 1945 we had four 5 Stars and 13 four Stars for a force of about 8 million in the Army/Air Corp (exact number of 1 Star and above is unknown due to...wait for it, shitty record management). Today we have 16 four Stars for a force of about 1.2 million.
Even worse, these over priced LT's retire and get onto every Board associated with military contract companies so their involvement is permanent.

The "No Officer Left Behind" program inside the beltway is doing well.

Additionally, I remember during Clintons rein a number of 4 Star pipe hitters being dumped, this went on for 8 years, so that's almost a generation of O's that learned if nothing happened on my watch I will probably be promoted. Add another 8 years of Barry and his She Hulk bride you have basically neutered the majority of senior O's (O6 and above). Anyone that worked in Iraq or Afghanistan had to observe the weak and pathetic leadership provided at the Division and Corp levels. To remove a piece of kit like a neck gator for GPF would take a letter from a 2 Star.

[Old Dog New Trick]

So what happens when you call your boss a liar and your boss is the president of the United States?

What’s that other thing called when the military leadership actively undermine the president?

Milley, McKenzie say they recommended 2,500 troops stay in Afghanistan, after Biden claims he was never told

https://apple.news/AAI84ElT-RrGk1CdJMR2t0Q

ETA: this is like the Energizer Bunny, keeps getting better with time.

Top generals contradict Biden, say they urged him not to withdraw from Afghanistan
Gen. Frank McKenzie said that he recommended maintaining a small force of 2,500 troops in Afghanistan earlier this year.

https://apple.news/A2KTzi19uQw24LRv2FTNx_Q

[Box]

...these aren't the droids you're looking for

[Penn]

Milly's reply to Senator Cotton asking why he did not resign is worth the time.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/psa...lley-testimony

[EricV]

McKenzie said he wouldn't say what he recommended to Biden in confidence, then said what he told Biden was to leave 2500 troops HUH?!?

I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer; could some body explain this to me??

[Sohei]

Originally Posted by EricV

I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer; could some body explain this to me??

It isn't you, Brother! It's that they are liars who are having to lie on the spot in order to save their skin. By this time next week...most of this stuff will be as if it was never spoken.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by EricV

McKenzie said he wouldn't say what he recommended to Biden in confidence, then said what he told Biden was to leave 2500 troops HUH?!?

I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer; could some body explain this to me??

Yeah, I saw that & did one of those cartoon moves where the head goes in 2 directions. Smooth move there Generale'.

Sohei is right though. This will be just like some Kansas Dust in the Wind once 3 or 4 more planned distractions make their way through the spin cycle.

[Penn]

Sohei, That is why we veterans should organize to oppose anyone enlisting in the military.

Since most enlistment are family experiences that inform succeeding generation of call to service, the lost impact of that committed citizen, should alarm any "woke" socialist engineer.

The only leverage to defend democratic principles are to eliminate those who threaten to enslave you. The equation is no different today, then it was in 1776.

In every great transition of thought and, or, technology, revolution has followed.

This occurs because communication has increased. There is more group knowledge, the age of enlightenment argue the Roman Church authority was not infallible.
Choice was a divine right.

Reformation, the age of exploration, all conspire to create a new world.

We may be its first citizens transiting from a labor based consumer, Terra Bonne society, to a connected ability to harvest and nurture every resource universally.

The futures limitations is subjected to the social structures within a society, that structure limits forward vision, by succumbing to orthodoxy.

[Sohei]

Originally Posted by Penn

Sohei, That is why we veterans should organize to oppose anyone enlisting in the military.

Since most enlistment are family experiences that inform succeeding generation of call to service, the lost impact of that committed citizen, should alarm any "woke" socialist engineer.

The only leverage to defend democratic principles are to eliminate those who threaten to enslave you. The equation is no different today, then it was in 1776.

In every great transition of thought and, or, technology, revolution has followed.

This occurs because communication has increased. There is more group knowledge, the age of enlightenment argue the Roman Church authority was not infallible.
Choice was a divine right.

Reformation, the age of exploration, all conspire to create a new world.

We may be its first citizens transiting from a labor based consumer, Terra Bonne society, to a connected ability to harvest and nurture every resource universally.

The futures limitations is subjected to the social structures within a society, that structure limits forward vision, by succumbing to orthodoxy.

I couldn't agree more, Brother...especially with the bolded part. Very well said indeed!

[Box]

Watching those fucking mutts today was like watching an episode "Charlie Murphy's True Hollywood Stories" on the Chapelle Show.

"I won't share what I said with the president behind closed doors"
"so, here's what I said to the president behind closed doors"

"No, we didn't leave any Americans behind"
"Yes, there are hundreds of Americans stuck in Trashcanistan"

"No, we didn't need to have extra troops in the country"
"Sir, I said we should keep troops in the country"





Somewhere in the world, there is cluster fuck taking place at a shit show being held inside of a dumpster fire that is parked next to a circus...
...and the participants are laughing their asses off at Americas highest levels of military leadership

Based on what was televised today - tomorrow we should all expect to hear testimony from the strong man, Bozo the Clown, the bearded lady, and Joe Joe the Dog Faced Boy

[Paslode]

Lloyd Austin said during the clown show yesterday

Retaining Bagram would have required putting as many as 5,000 U.S. troops into harms way just to operate and defend it

My question when I heard that my question was what was the deciding factor in not choosing to send 5000 troops into harms way to operate and defend Bagram, versus sending 5800 troops into harms way to operate and defend Kabul International Airport?

From what I have read Bagram was a far more secure facility and much easier to defend than the Kabul.