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Old 10-05-2012, 17:35   #1
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Soldiers ordered not to shoot Taliban as they plant mines... 'because it WAKES UP loc

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...UP-locals.html

U.S. military chiefs ordered troops to exercise 'courageous constraint' and even warned them they could be charged with murder if they shot any Taliban without permission from above.


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Old 10-05-2012, 19:14   #2
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What the FuHell?!
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Old 10-05-2012, 20:28   #3
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Nothing against the Brits.. But that's them. Sucks tho
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:20   #4
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It isnt just the Brits...
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:01   #5
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:07   #6
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Old 10-06-2012, 14:56   #7
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Yep, time to come home. That is just f'd up.
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Old 10-06-2012, 20:35   #8
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Sounds about right. Shit like this is absolutely stupid.
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:35   #9
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Sounds about right. Shit like this is absolutely stupid.
Yup, I had to re-read the URL thnking it might have been written by the guys at the Duffleblog.......

If this is true, we don't have leaders in A-Stan just "yes men".
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Old 10-07-2012, 20:21   #10
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Aiding and abetting the enemy...whats the article that covers that circumstance?
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Old 10-07-2012, 22:20   #11
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Yup, I had to re-read the URL thnking it might have been written by the guys at the Duffleblog.......

If this is true, we don't have leaders in A-Stan just "yes men".
We (as in the overall CF) have set the conditions for things like this to happen.

How can we accomplish our real job, which is still to kill or capture the facilitators and commanders of terrorist networks, with such leashes around or necks? Our own limitations are ruining the effectiveness of our capabilities.
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:27   #12
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Actually the real job is to take away their support of the populace and deny them any support. You can't kill your way to success in UW.

Good point, and I agree -- that is the ultimate answer to the problem. I should have caveated that by saying I was referring to what my specific job was.

It definitely needs to be a many-headed approach, IMHO
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Old 10-08-2012, 19:37   #13
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Actually the real job is to take away their support of the populace and deny them any support. You can't kill your way to success in UW. That is the problem all along the military just does not get. Saying that allowing the bad guys to plant a bomb without doing anything because it wakes up the locals is just plain stupid as well as counter productive. You are handing control of the local population over to the insurgents this way.
Che might disagree with you..............
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:50   #14
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Just use silencers and no one gets awaken. KISS.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:55   #15
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suppressors are not just for shooting at panzer range to avoid quiet hours
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