08-28-2015, 09:09
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
I love this guy on TV and I am entertained by his speeches.
However, if you guys knew how this guy really operates in the business world, both within his companies and in dealing with his business partners, I cannot imagine that any of you would support him. It is shocking to me that any Green Beret, given the community's views on things like not fucking over your teammates for your own benefit, could support him. That's all I have toupee.
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You realize your words lack any factual references. And you're getting a bit personal are you not? 
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08-28-2015, 09:24
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
I love this guy on TV and I am entertained by his speeches.
However, if you guys knew how this guy really operates in the business world, both within his companies and in dealing with his business partners, I cannot imagine that any of you would support him. It is shocking to me that any Green Beret, given the community's views on things like not fucking over your teammates for your own benefit, could support him. That's all I have toupee.
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While the democratic party has been effectively applying Machiavellian principles in their quest to destroy (socialize) America, the republican party has been selling cupcakes. Donald Trump may be the Machiavellian candidate this country needs in order to expose and destroy the socialist/progressive movement.
Ted Cruz seems to agree, since he is the only republican candidate that hasn't attacked Trump. Perhaps we will see a Trump/Cruz ticket.
Ted Cruz Teams Up With Donald Trump at Iran Rally
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08-28-2015, 09:41
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It is shocking to me that any Green Beret, given the community's views on things like not fucking over your teammates for your own benefit, could support him.
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As long as he is fucking over the democratic/socialist party and the quisling establishment republicans (John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Lindsay Graham, Jeb Bush, et al.)for the benefit of this once great nation, I could support him.
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Last edited by SF-TX; 08-28-2015 at 10:20.
Reason: expanded target list to incluce quisling republicans boehner, mcconnell, mccain, graham, et al.
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08-28-2015, 10:06
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Trump kinda reminds me of "Back to School" with Rodney Dangerfield...lol
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LOL .... and we all know how that turned out. 
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08-28-2015, 10:07
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While the democratic party has been effectively applying Machiavellian principles in their quest to destroy (socialize) America, the republican party has been selling cupcakes. Donald Trump may be the Machiavellian candidate this country needs in order to expose and destroy the socialist/progressive movement.
Ted Cruz seems to agree, since he is the only republican candidate that hasn't attacked Trump. Perhaps we will see a Trump/Cruz ticket.
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Something that most don't see coming, not until their freedoms are completely gone and there's little they can do about it...... and the very reason that "green berets" are strategic assets and not tactical, we don't view this in the short term.
And remember, we're the ones that teach "snakes" to kill each other..................
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08-28-2015, 11:29
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Trump says guns are not the problem and that he is pro 2nd Amendment.
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For what it's worth, someone I know played a round of golf with Trump recently and had nothing but good things to say about him. The only atypical characteristic Trump exhibited was his graciousness to everyone he came in contact with.
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08-28-2015, 11:54
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Is 'The Donald' a matter of 'reality' or 'perception'?
http://www.nationalmemo.com/21-quest...-donald-trump/
Personally, his bombastic, bullying 'style' bothers me, as does his historically amoral personal lifestyle, and I just don't see him as someone who would be effective in balancing the 'seven hats' that are said to be worn by the POTUS.
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Good points Richard! Unfortunately, in order to wake up the walking dead at this point, I think the style and personality of the Donald may be exactly what we need to turn the apple cart upside-down. Risky to be sure. But the likes of Jeb Bush, et al. have about as much energy as Major (Sominex) Yamamoto.
OTOH, the risk of this energetic, hyperbolic, visceral approach (as pointed out to me by a former SOCOM Command Surgeon we both know and love) is exactly what propelled Hitler to power in Germany. 
So the choice as I see it is to either continue on the same ol' path toward state sponsored oppression and abdication of world leadership, or take a risk, kick some ass, and see what happens.
You can gather HUMINT or SIGNIT or ya' can just toss a grenade and see what happens.
Fasten your seat belts boys and girls - it's gonna be a bumpy ride.
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08-28-2015, 13:02
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You realize your words lack any factual references. And you're getting a bit personal are you not? |
I have never represented his companies myself, but I have worked at firms that represented him and were on the other side of him. I am not going to get any more specific than that. Sometimes people see what they want to see.
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08-28-2015, 21:00
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"Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer View Post
I love this guy on TV and I am entertained by his speeches.
However, if you guys knew how this guy really operates in the business world, both within his companies and in dealing with his business partners, I cannot imagine that any of you would support him. It is shocking to me that any Green Beret, given the community's views on things like not fucking over your teammates for your own benefit, could support him. That's all I have toupee." RL
He will do well dealing with Arabs, Iranians and Afghan's....
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08-29-2015, 04:19
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I have never represented his companies myself, but I have worked at firms that represented him and were on the other side of him. I am not going to get any more specific than that. Sometimes people see what they want to see.
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Who would you rather have?
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08-29-2015, 07:54
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^^^^^You haven't read many of his posts, have you?
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08-29-2015, 09:07
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I don't think Trump will get the nomination.
I hope Cruz does, but the establishment doesn't like him either. "Too conservative" for their tastes.
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08-29-2015, 10:19
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I don't think Trump will get the nomination.
I hope Cruz does, but the establishment doesn't like him either. "Too conservative" for their tastes.
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Concur. Trump's chances are slim. For now, however, Trump's recon by fire is provoking discussion and illuminating the widespread dissatisfaction with both political parties, the political donor establishment and other elites in DC.
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08-29-2015, 10:36
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Concur. Trump's chances are slim. For now, however, Trump's recon by fire is provoking discussion and illuminating the widespread dissatisfaction with both political parties, the political donor establishment and other elites in DC.
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A noted on Drudge yesterday Clinton Camp Says One-Fifth of Delegates Secured for Nomination, true or false it does shed light that 'the establishment' will decide which party approved idiots/nominees we will have to choose from come November 2016.
That is a rigged election.
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08-29-2015, 11:20
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Trump is accurately identifying problems, political correctness be damned.
This is a necessary first step, and it's about time someone had the courage to do it.
However, it is not the same thing as identifying workable solutions.
So far, the solutions offered seem a bit like "belling the cat".
Those who would perpetuate existing problems are already hard at work looking to undermine any future solutions.
It would be nice to hear some frank honesty from any of the candidates regarding the hard choices and associated sacrifices involved in workable solutions.
That would show real political courage.
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