I'm sorry what were you saying about Mr. Trump? "Can't Win"?

[cbtengr]

Originally Posted by SF-TX

You don't have to find them all and 'throw them out.' You create an environment where it is in their best interests for illegal immigrants to self-deport. President Eisenhower is credited with one of the most successful operations, Operation Wetback, to stem the flow of illegal immigration.

The majority, fearing arrest and permanent disbarment from legal immigration, self-deported.

This was the case in 2006 here in Iowa following the big raids of the meat packing plants. The illegals made themselves very scarce and it was 4-5 months before some of the plants got back up to full production. They literally left the state. If you raid them they will leave.

[Roguish Lawyer]

Bush 41 was not re-elected because we read his lips. I voted libertarian that year.

[Trapper John]

Originally Posted by craigepo

An interesting take on Trump's candidacy:

"Many would probably question why, of all people, a decadent, rude, and pompous billionaire should be trusted to meddle with American culture? I think it comes down to a perception that America has already drowned in a post-modernist nightmare of moral relativism, from which extreme political correctness and protest culture stem. Trump, on the other hand, is all absolutes. Everything he says, accurate or not, is stated in absolute, definitive terms. His personal morality is clear: He respects people who work hard, are loyal, innovate, and “win,” and he shuns those who don’t meet the criteria. Cruel as it may sound, I think America needs to reenergize these fundamental cultural values before we can ever hope to create a better society."


http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...0Culturecreate

The author seems to paint Trump in Ayn Rand colors. I can see where he is coming from.

Interesting, I never thought of the Donald in a Randian context....interesting....you have a good point there.

From the article, this comment (I think it was #16) is probably accurate ...“He will sucker in talent, tell them that their work is terrible, push them to achieve beyond what they think is possible, and then take credit for their successes as he tells America, and the world, that their projects are the best thing that has ever happened. This works. It’s not pretty, but it works.”

Frankly, I can get behind that style. Not my style, but under the circumstances this style of management/governance is exactly what we need. JMHO

[Trapper John]

Originally Posted by PSM

It's been purposely misinterpreted: Mark Levin: Congress Can End Birthright Citizenship (14 minutes.)

Video from Hannity: Mark Levin on the 14th Amendment. (9 minutes)

Pat

Very good points by Levin. My point is that Trumps policy, with which I agree, will need to be legislated by Congress and will most certainly be challenged in Fed Court under the 14th A and probably will be reviewed by SCOTUS.

No reason to not proceed though! By the time the SCOTUS got around to reviewing this the plan could be implemented anyway and the whole issue is mute. Unless of course some progressive group like the ACLU got a Fed judge to issue an injunction. Anyway you cut it that pesky 14th A will be an issue that needs to be handled.

[Trapper John]

Originally Posted by TFA303

Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert, has an excellent analysis of Trump's persuasive techniques here: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/126589300371/clown-genius

I think that is a very insightful and accurate analysis of the Donald's style.

I was very dismayed by his failure to promise not to run a 3rd party campaign during the debate, and his failure to answer direct questions except to say the same things we have heard before only loader. Kinda turned my initial enthusiasm off.

However, watching and listening since, I think (1) he is putting some well thought out substance to his proposals and (2) his messaging and communications style is nearly perfect.

I could not work for him and his management style is too Steve Jobs like for my taste.. But, I also think that is exactly the kind of governance style we need! So if he were to get elected, I think he would make an excellent POTUS for the times.

[Roguish Lawyer]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...mp-focus-group

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...mp-focus-group

If Luntz' legs are shaking (easy Mathews...) then just maybe it's because he's just as out of touch as the Mesozoic folks he polls for. The sentiments expressed by the people he interviewed are only news to someone that's been sitting under a rock (or atop a pedestal) for too long.

“You guys understand how significant this is?” Luntz asked reporters, according to Time. “This is real. I’m having trouble processing it. Like, my legs are shaking.”

“I want to put the Republican leadership behind this mirror and let them see. They need to wake up. They don’t realize how the grassroots have abandoned them,” Luntz continued. “Donald Trump is punishment to a Republican elite that wasn’t listening to their grassroots.”

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by Badger52

If Luntz' legs are shaking (easy Mathews...) then just maybe it's because he's just as out of touch as the Mesozoic folks he polls for. The sentiments expressed by the people he interviewed are only news to someone that's been sitting under a rock (or atop a pedestal) for too long.

Agreed, and this was a DC-area focus group. Imagine going far from the Beltway.

[Badger52]

Forgot to say thanks for posting RL. Have seen Luntz' work before but that was downright... amusing.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...mp-focus-group

“Donald Trump is punishment to a Republican elite that wasn’t listening to their grassroots.”


Punishment?

Donald Trump is the cure for a GOP that's become nothing more than a virus......

I'd sure like to chat with the GOP pollsters..... Yeah I'm just another "low information" voter.....

[mark46th]

I hope Trump doesn't run third party. That would guarantee a democratic win.

[abc_123]

Originally Posted by mark46th

I hope Trump doesn't run third party. That would guarantee a democratic win.

I hopte that the GOP doesn't force him to because it will guarantee a dem win.

Let Trump have fair shot at the nomination during the primary. If he wins, back him. If he doesn't, then do the politically smart thing and spiff him however you need to to keep him on the team. Stop screwing around with talk of "pledges" which are specifically targeted at Trump.


Screw the South Carolina GOP. If I were Trump I wouldn't sign a pledge under duress when I am the front runner. I would run as a write in candidate.

I agree with Trump's overall stance... if not treated fairly, I would definately run as a third party candidate. Who would decide "fair"? Me. That's the way it works when you have power....in this case supporters who vote. Because, in the end I (if Trump) could alwasy just go back to my life of being rich and successful.