SF Fieldcraft

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by AProfSoldier
Very good and very close, but if I recall , it's closer to 5x the distance between the stars.

The Team Sergeant

Hi Sergeant,

Yes 5x including the distance between the 2 stars...

http://www.excaliburelectronics.com/.../BigLittle.jpg

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by AProfSoldier
Where did you find this tibit? Madonna's website?

It's the Big Dipper and that's not where it's located!

Anyone? Where and how do you find the North Star?

{little dipper.....@#$!#$$#%$!#}

http://www.wildernessmanuals.com/manual_1/chpt_8/6.html

Garbage in, garbage out! LOL

[Team Sergeant]

Originally posted by Desert Fox
Hi Sergeant,

Yes 5x including the distance between the 2 stars...

http://www.excaliburelectronics.com/.../BigLittle.jpg

You had doubts?

The Team Sergeant

(Again, forget "that other guy" on here I think he's a PETA agent.)

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by AProfSoldier
(Again, forget "that other guy" on here I think he's a PETA agent.)

That's low. LOL

[Team Sergeant]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
You look up in the sky.

It's the last one on the handle of the little dipper. If I recall, it's very bright relative to the others.

Polaris aka the North Star is actually at the end of the handle of Ursa Minor, I mis-read your post, thinking you were speaking of the Big Dipper.

If one travels out side and views the Big Dipper and locates Polaris you will not usually see the "Little Dipper" in it’s entirety as it is hard to discern for the background stars. As a night star Polaris is bright as compared to the other stars making up the “Little Dipper” but Dim as to the stars making up the “Big Dipper.”

[Razor]

IIRC, you can use the moon to find south from when its a thin crescent to shortly before it becomes half-full. Connect the two 'points' with a straight line on the concurve side of the crescent, then continue that line down to the horizon. That's a very rough measurement, but it gets you in the ballpark.

If you have a hard time finding Ursa Major (the Big Dipper), try locating Casseopia, which looks like a skewed 'W'. From the 'points' on the W, track west and you should bump into Ursa Major.

[Valhal]

Can you give some examples of how you use pace count for land nav.

On a flat paved marked greenbelt I count about 900 paces to a mile, that's wearing a 40lbs weighted vest and 5lbs ankle weights doing a little over 15 minute a mile tempo.

What should I expect in the rough terrain of the foot hills?

Thanks,
Mark

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Valhal
Can you give some examples of how you use pace count for land nav.

On a flat paved marked greenbelt I count about 900 paces to a mile, that's wearing a 40lbs weighted vest and 5lbs ankle weights doing a little over 15 minute a mile tempo.

What should I expect in the rough terrain of the foot hills?

Thanks,
Mark

Hi,

I count approx 115 pairs (easier to count 2 paces than each) for 100m of forest.Thats because I avoid obstacles.On a road I do approx half less paces.But this is for me, for you it will changes.So you have to try.Very easy to found your paces with a GPS.
I use a little rope and I attach it to a button hole.Every 100m I add a node.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally posted by Valhal
Can you give some examples of how you use pace count for land nav.

On a flat paved marked greenbelt I count about 900 paces to a mile, that's wearing a 40lbs weighted vest and 5lbs ankle weights doing a little over 15 minute a mile tempo.

What should I expect in the rough terrain of the foot hills?

Thanks,
Mark

See me in the pace count thread....

[archade]

Dear QPs,

There is another mean to find the north with stars. It doesn't work all night long. It depends on where you are on earth.

This is the Orion's constallation ( The Hunter)

For those who don't know this method would you mind to follow those instruction please?

Firstly open 400px...image. This is the constellation. You could noticed tree stars in a raw on the middle of The Hunter.

Secondly open step 1 image. On those tree stars we can put an arrow (feel free to change the color ) this red arrow is near to indicate North.

Thirdly open step 2 image. On this one we can add another arrow. This blue arrow is near to indicate North too.

finally open step 3 image. Between both arrows we can add this white arrow who indicate surely North.

Unless you need a very accurate angle of walking, the red arrow is enough keep your walk / drive northward.

Sorry for the english

Archade's €.02

[Diablo Blanco]

Using the Southern Cross at Night

Crux - also known as the Southern Cross - has FIVE stars (not four like the false cross).

Take the distance between the two furthest stars/tips (the only two that are not blue-white stars) and multiply by 4.5 times the distance to an imaginary point. There is no visible star for South, just an imaginary point.

[BrerRabbit]

How does one find north without aid of a compass? Handheld GPS with lots of backup batteries, or always carry FM 21-76 with you.

Survive in -60 degree weather? Hope your hands are still warm enough to turn to the correct section in FM 21-76.

Start a fire with no matches? Peel plastic away from negative end of one of the backup batteries, take a staple out of FM 21-76, bend into a 'U' shape and place between paper insulator on negative side where you removed plastic. DO NOT let other end of staple touch the exposed negative side. Tear less important pages from FM 21-76, and use as tinder. Start fire by pressing negative side of battery down on tinder.

Snare a rabbit? FM 21-76

Build a poncho raft? Bush, Australian or Donut? FM 21-76

Procure water in a survival situation? FM 21-76

[Go Devil]

Originally Posted by BrerRabbit

How does one find north without aid of a compass? Handheld GPS with lots of backup batteries, or always carry FM 21-76 with you.

Survive in -60 degree weather? Hope your hands are still warm enough to turn to the correct section in FM 21-76.

Start a fire with no matches? Peel plastic away from negative end of one of the backup batteries, take a staple out of FM 21-76, bend into a 'U' shape and place between paper insulator on negative side where you removed plastic. DO NOT let other end of staple touch the exposed negative side. Tear less important pages from FM 21-76, and use as tinder. Start fire by pressing negative side of battery down on tinder.

Snare a rabbit? FM 21-76

Build a poncho raft? Bush, Australian or Donut? FM 21-76

Procure water in a survival situation? FM 21-76

You’ve submitted a nursery rhyme for post graduate study?

[BrerRabbit]

"Nothing is more discouraging than unappreciated sarcasm."

[Blitzzz (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Valhal

Can you give some examples of how you use pace count for land nav.

On a flat paved marked greenbelt I count about 900 paces to a mile, that's wearing a 40lbs weighted vest and 5lbs ankle weights doing a little over 15 minute a mile tempo.

What should I expect in the rough terrain of the foot hills?

Thanks,
Mark

Just curious Valhal,Your pace length with ruck would have to be around 6 foot 5 inches long. More like running. a normal "pace is around 39 to 40 inches making 900 of those around 2,880 feet a mile is 5,280 if I remember.