No tent camping/sleeping

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Having said that, I have slept wrapped in just a woobie or a poncho and a woobie, or just pased out on the ground with a ruck for a pillow.

If you are tired enough, you can sleep anywhere.

TR

Yes Sir, TR, when mission essential equipment comes before personal comforts, sometimes all you'll have will be mosquito netting over your face, and if your lucky, light weight gortex for rain gear.

More often than not, my radio was the wearer of my poncho(s), not me.

[DinDinA-2]

Originally Posted by kletzenklueffer

Pete- when my son goes, it's usually out of the truck, we shoot some, and fish some. He's put together a decent backpack of his own, but he needs to reduce it's weight some. I talk to him about not carrying things you won't need- like a 0-15 degree sleeping bag when it's 80 degrees outside, that a poncho liner will do.

As far as my gear, I carry a water purifier, extra pants, t shirt and socks, a real lightweight sleeping bag (size of a 1/2 loaf of bread) and a woobie if it's getting below 30, a canteen, cup and stove, a 70 oz camelbak, simple foods (nuts, cranberries, a dehydrated meal or two) first aid, gps and compass, hikers tent and 8x10 camo tarp, knife, pistol, rifle, more ammo than I need, fleece jacket and layers if it's freezing. My pack weighs about 40 with water, food and tent.

I've been working to reduce my carrying weight, and while comfort is important, if I can't get to where I want to go, there's no point in going at all.

While we are at it...on my compass lanyard is a police whistle and signal mirror. Do not forget tthe map and rite in rain pad w/pencil. I NEVER go in the field without those items.

[booker]

Some places that carry hammocks:

http://www.mosquitohammock.com/

http://www.junglehammock.com/models/...ican/index.php

[Golf1echo]

Wet Dog nothing like kayaking, thaw / refreezing and Rain Forests to teach you the value of waterproof gear....and the liability of non waterproof gear.

TR That old WWII Jungle Hammock haunted me for years had one set up in the forest for about four years before someone liberated it. Below are a couple for you... The first weighs in at 2.75 lbs + pad and biners (if you use them) and both can do so much more.

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by Golf1echo

Wet Dog nothing like kayaking, thaw / refreezing and Rain Forests to teach you the value of waterproof gear....and the liability of non waterproof gear.

TR That old WWII Jungle Hammock haunted me for years had one set up in the forest for about four years before someone liberated it. Below are a couple for you... The first weighs in at 2.75 lbs + pad and biners (if you use them) and both can do so much more.

Can either be set up on the ground like a bivy and staked out there?

TR

Originally Posted by Golf1echo

Wet Dog nothing like kayaking, thaw / refreezing and Rain Forests to teach you the value of waterproof gear....and the liability of non waterproof gear.

TR That old WWII Jungle Hammock haunted me for years had one set up in the forest for about four years before someone liberated it. Below are a couple for you... The first weighs in at 2.75 lbs + pad and biners (if you use them) and both can do so much more.

Good to know.

Story: Spent several days, (7 to 10), in LA, wet, and in big reptile county. One night it was getting late and we were more then just tired, decided to call in a radio check, let the NET know we were putting it up for few hours of sleep. Call comes back, "Good night, sleep well".

Kept it easy, snap linked my ruck to a rope and hung it in a tree, 6 to 8 ft above the water line. Between to other Cyprus tree, my bedding. No sooner had the sun come up, team member comes walking by, sliding through the water waste deep. "Hey wet dog, get any sleep last night?"

"Sure,.....you?"

"Na, I've been up awhile, been out huntin."

"You need to be careful brother, there're big reptiles in here, big enough to eat you, or a snake that will kill you if bit."

"You mean like this one?" (Damn snake was 5 ft. long, and thick).

"Hungry?", he asks.

"Yeah!"

------BT---------

Note to self.....When visiting LA, bring a 18 Seriers trained Cajun.

[Golf1echo]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Can either be set up on the ground like a bivy and staked out there?

TR

The modular nature of the shelter pieces gives you the tools to make what you want. Seems I don't have an image of the Jungle Hammock Configuration on the ground (that is easily done though). The first image is the G1 Half Shell rigged as a hooch w/netting and pad (same as Jungle Hammock w/out Recon Shell). The second is a hammock configuration using G1 Solar Shell for a single point set up, lots of room for gear or others to squeeze into if necessary. We see 80f temps inside w/ exterior temps in the 20f's even on overcast days. The third are the larger G1 Multi Shells (shown in the second hammock pic above) set up in a quick beach shelter(60 second set up) during a nasty storm on the coast.

The premise of these designs is that the pieces should be the least they can be and yet durably do everything. Most folks do not understand the ingenuity of the SF Soldier and some have a hard time understanding these shelters. Thats OK, when you are inside one wrapped in your liners w/ a toasty G1 Thermal Radiator and snow and ice still on top of the shelter thermally masked in neg. temps, IJDM . Besides the other 50% can use pieces as wraps and covers

PM w/ more info on configurations.

[lonewolf726]

Originally Posted by koz

For the lightest cover that actually works, take a look at the Kifaru ParaHootch -
http://www.kifaru.net/tarps_hootches.html - it's expensive but works really well.

While you're there, take a look at their Woobie or Doobie - https://kifaru.net/woobie.html
Also expensive but are pretty awesome.

I agree with Brother Koz on the Kifaru stuff...top quality kit, and pricey but worth every penny...you get what you pay for.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Most of my time in the woods has been in a temperate/jungle environment.

My biggest concerns were staying dry, and keeping my blood for my own purposes.

Having said that, I like a jungle hammock, even set up on the ground.

Dry and keeps the bugs out, too. Not too bulky, but they are hard to find now days, especially the US versions.

If rain is expected, an Australian poncho/shelter goes over the top.

Having said that, I have slept wrapped in just a woobie or a poncho and a woobie, or just pased out on the ground with a ruck for a pillow.

If you are tired enough, you can sleep anywhere.
TR

I can attest to the above statement..... (We could start a thread concerning all the places we've fallen asleep....)

[Surgicalcric]

G1E provided me with a couple samples for testing at the start of this trip but other than using/testing them during PMT they have stayed packed away due to mission change. However once this vacation is over I plan on spending some quality alone time in the mountains and will report back with a more detailed review.

That said, the design and construction is hands down the best I have seen. I have a Kifaru parahooch and doobie, several jungle hammocks and a couple other para shelters for comparison. G1E's shelter offers are light and versatile and the liner than is warmer than the Kifaru woobie/doobie.

If any of you guys are looking for something new I would seriously give G1E a change to fill your need.

Crip

[Sapper124]

Had a chance to check out G1E's products at the Maneuver Conference last week. After handling the liner and shell i was drooling and knew I needed to have one. Ill be setting some money aside to purchase these soon and hopefully get some use out of them backpacking; unfortunately, I doubt they will be on the packing list for any phase of the Q course

[mark46th]

TR-
I agree with the jungle hammock- A great piece of equipment. Now, I prefer Embassy Suites. Free breakfast and Happy Hour...

[33army]

I've been looking into a hammock system and came across Clark Jungle Hammocks. Wondering if anyone had used them before?

[Pete]

Originally Posted by 33army

I've been looking into a hammock system and came across Clark Jungle Hammocks. Wondering if anyone had used them before?

Not used it but.....

Just looking at their site the hammocks appear to be pricey but are sold as a "system". Most others add things to the basic hammock price and you end up in a similar price range.

They have a 250 lb working load for the light hammock and 350 lbs for the other two. I like the larger loads. A lot of hammocks only advertise 250 lbs.

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by 33army

I've been looking into a hammock system and came across Clark Jungle Hammocks. Wondering if anyone had used them before?

The forum located at the link below has information on various hammocks that may be of some help.

http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/index.php