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Old 02-14-2007, 00:37   #31
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Hey guys, this is an interesting thread, and timely, considering that we are about to introduce our own woobie here at Kifaru. We just thought it was about time to breathe new life into the old poncho liner. Here's a link to a thread about it on our message board for those of you that might be iterested:

http://forums.kifaru.net/ubbthreads....e=1#Post100336

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Air.177: The problem with most sleeping bag liners, is that you have to crawl in thru the top, making entries and exits from your bag a pain in the butt. Silk liners are definately the best for getting the right balance of light weight/size and temperature rating. Have you checked out the Cocoon travel sheets and liners? They offer these in silk and a new ripstop silk. The big advantage with the Cocoon offerings, is that they have a velcro closure side access. This makes for easy entry and exit when in the sleeping bag. These are available in earthtone colors such as their Muddy Elephant, and I think they are coming out in Coyote Brown also. Here's their website with all the info: www.designsalt.com

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Old 02-14-2007, 09:19   #32
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Mel, I would like to see the woobie when you have some pics.

The zipper I put around my poncho liner was always one of my favorite mods. Will be interesting to see how the loops work to keep it closed.

How do you keep the insulation from migrating if you do not sew it down?

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Old 02-14-2007, 09:28   #33
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How do you keep the insulation from migrating if you do not sew it down?
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:41   #34
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The insulation is sewn down around the perimeter in the seam. That's one of the advantages of the Climashield insulation, in that it does not require quilting or lamination. Here's a link to Climashield for more info:

http://www.climashield.com/

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Old 03-12-2007, 18:19   #35
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I modded my first woobie in '81 while on ODA 5 with a long zipper (most of the team did the same). Stew Carnes told me about it. Used it with my 2.5 lb Northface down bag rated to +20. With a Thremarest pad I've slep snug as a bug in the Bavarian mountians at 0 to 10 degress with a snow wall to cut the wind (Thermarest, Northface bag and poncho liner inside the bag). In a snow cave never needed the woobie, just used my Northface. Used the woobie as a pillow in it's stuff sack.

I have two poncho liners with zippers. I just bought long zippers and had the cleaners sew them in. It is a permanent item in my rucksack as is my sleeping shirt. Never leave home without it.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:03   #36
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The zipper I put around my poncho liner was always one of my favorite mods.
Sir, when you did this are two sides closed or do you have just one side closed so you can put your feet out the bottom if you are sleeping in your uniform?
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:30   #37
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Sir, when you did this are two sides closed or do you have just one side closed so you can put your feet out the bottom if you are sleeping in your uniform?
Just like a bag.

All sides closed but the bottom. Double ended zipper so that you can open it up completely, if desired.

The zipper is not a heavy one, and will break away if you pull hard.

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Old 07-19-2007, 07:43   #38
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Mine is sewn from one bottom corner to the other then up one side so that it can be opened up to full size.
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:54   #39
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Use a body bag in conjunction with a poncho liner. The body bag is waterproof and can come in handy as a litter as well. It does have six handles. No, I'm not trying to sound macabre, it is a useful piece of gear. And they don't cost anything. They can be requested through supply. They are roomy as well. Still have mine along with my poncho liner.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:29   #40
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Use a body bag in conjunction with a poncho liner. The body bag is waterproof and can come in handy as a litter as well. It does have six handles. No, I'm not trying to sound macabre, it is a useful piece of gear. And they don't cost anything. They can be requested through supply. They are roomy as well. Still have mine along with my poncho liner.
The six handles come in great for turning the bodybag into a hammock as well.

The drawback is, that since the bag is waterproof, condensation/frost was an issue on the inside. But it is a nice addition to the liner if you have room for it.
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Old 08-24-2007, 21:06   #41
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I did the same as The Reaper.

Interestingly enough, I had Kims sew the zipper around the poncho liner.

Is Kims still even there off Yadkin Road ? I believe they charged me like $20 at the time. This was like 1985 so it felt like a whopper of a charge for some sewing.

We 82nd guys did not learn the art of self sewing.
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Old 08-25-2007, 01:03   #42
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There used to be covers for the old mummy feather bags, like the bivy cover for the gortex bags. I got one of the old covers and had a poncho liner sewn into that. It has both the zipper and snaps. Poncho shelter over that and I was toasty dry and comfortable. In real cold it was a nice light warmth multiplier to any sleeping bag.
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Old 01-20-2008, 00:11   #43
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Hey guys, this is an interesting thread, and timely, considering that we are about to introduce our own woobie here at Kifaru. We just thought it was about time to breathe new life into the old poncho liner. Here's a link to a thread about it on our message board for those of you that might be iterested:

http://forums.kifaru.net/ubbthreads....e=1#Post100336

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Air.177: The problem with most sleeping bag liners, is that you have to crawl in thru the top, making entries and exits from your bag a pain in the butt. Silk liners are definately the best for getting the right balance of light weight/size and temperature rating. Have you checked out the Cocoon travel sheets and liners? They offer these in silk and a new ripstop silk. The big advantage with the Cocoon offerings, is that they have a velcro closure side access. This makes for easy entry and exit when in the sleeping bag. These are available in earthtone colors such as their Muddy Elephant, and I think they are coming out in Coyote Brown also. Here's their website with all the info: www.designsalt.com

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Old 01-20-2008, 00:47   #44
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Ahhh the woobie. That was my sleeping bag; double the fun when wrapped in a poncho when wet times rolled around. No need for a bulky sleeping bag but then again, I made my time in warm spots....unlike my brethren in the cold areas of the world...my sleeping was done in the hot spots of central and south america. 10th group brothers I know....I have no clue what cold is!!!

I did try out sleeping in a "bear suit" (for lack of technical name for that big brown suit for the cold). Once that bear suit got wet the fun was done.

Another fave was the field jacket liner...basically a woobie in jacket form. I still travel with a woobie today as a civilian. It is part of my packing list...never leave home without it!
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....unlike my brethren in the cold areas of the world...my sleeping was done in the hot spots of central and south america. 10th group brothers I know....I have no clue what cold is!!!
Cho-liner worked well to either shove down to the bottom of the sleeping bag (if you lacked camp booties) or used it to fill the gap where you couldn't quite get the bag zipped all the way up....(All that commo gear had to fit in there too)
But it was never too far away...
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