Communist California, Dear Leader Knows Best

[exsquid]

I predict a booming business for whoever figures out how to modify water meters to read less than actual usage.

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[PSM]

Originally Posted by exsquid

I predict a booming business for whoever figures out how to modify water meters to read less than actual usage.

x/S

They are already installing Smart Electrical Meters, you can bet that the start date was determined by the time needed for the implementation of Smart Water Meter installation.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by CSB

I can only imagine the opening few minutes of a "sales pitch" by Governor Bill Haslam, seeking to attract business to Tennessee ...

Awesome pitch.

The coast, not just Kali, is going to continue dropping rounds on their own toes (e.g., Seattle madness of "head tax" for large employers). The western Plains, up here, Tennessee... the list of places receptive to business, which makes jobs, which contributes property taxes and positive local economic impact is much larger than the hives that are trying to kill them. Water will find its level...

[cbtengr]

They will soon run off all the hard working people that pay the bills.

[Last hard class]

So, Tammi Bruce is the new ‘Deep Throat” source for PS. Com?


This entire process, from the author to the good readers of PS.Com, shows a textbook example of how fake news works and how it helps the political side that engineered it. Fake news is engineered for a purpose. Not to convert people, but to reinforce the beliefs of the target audience. While most will view it with a cynical eye, it’s the believers that will pass along the message without questioning the facts. This is what allows Fake news to exist. Make up anything you want as long as it fits the narrative and it will achieve its purpose. Fake news can be totally made up but it’s usually more successful if its wrapped up with something truthful.

Is this story based on the truth? Yes.
Does it still qualify as fake news? Absolutely.

Let’s take a look:


Here’s a name for you: Da#sy L&ther
Now Da#sy is in the business of selling gloom and doom. It appears she also happens to be the original author of this article. Although it is entirely possible she is just a strawman in this instance (see how I did that?). One of her money making endeavors is a blog called “The Org$anic Pre&per”. The more people she can convince that the world is ending, the more money she makes. Doesn’t matter if what she says is true. She’s not in the truth business, she’s in the making money business. It’s the message that counts. She knows her audience.

Radio talk show hosts:
Always looking for a way to create controversy. It’s their job they say. Got to keep the callers checking in you know. A couple of conservative guys pick this story up, go on a rant about communist California and were off to the races.

Now it’s legitimate news.

Enter Fox News. The largest news company in the world (but it doesn’t want to be called mainstream). What better way to reinforce the message than to have a past CA chapter president of NOW to chime in. She doesn’t care about the truth either. Just feed the followers.


The majority of PS.Com members lean heavily to the right. That makes this story appealing here. Already 19 posts moving the story forward. The message continues. Doesn’t matter if it’s true. And don’t kid yourself, this site is a social influencer for a certain demographic. Seeing this article here, backed up by members with QP next to them automatically legitimizes the story to that audience.

To recap:
Far right blog to radio host to fox news back to social influencer and closing the loop to the impressionable readers. That’s called “information laundering”(trademark ).


Remember, it’s not the truth that counts, just the message.


LHC

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Last hard class

Remember, it’s not the truth that counts, just the message.LHC

LHC, AB-1668 says what it says. The personal residential 55-gal appears to be one of the available factors in the formula available to the water resellers for calculating their water use, along with the supplier's development of a pricing structure to address excess by the individual residential customer. (Also, like much of this kind of stuff, it seems to really place yet another reporting/calculating burden on businesses.)

Question for you since you live in that area of surf & sun: As it's rare for a bunch of legislative critters to actually compose (knowledgeably) the legislation they write, who do you suppose drafted this stuff & purveyed it to the CA Assembly? As in, "cui bono?"

[Last hard class]

Originally Posted by Badger52

LHC, AB-1668 says what it says. The personal residential 55-gal appears to be one of the available factors in the formula available to the water resellers for calculating their water use, along with the supplier's development of a pricing structure to address excess by the individual residential customer. (Also, like much of this kind of stuff, it seems to really place yet another reporting/calculating burden on businesses.)

Question for you since you live in that area of surf & sun: As it's rare for a bunch of legislative critters to actually compose (knowledgeably) the legislation they write, who do you suppose drafted this stuff & purveyed it to the CA Assembly? As in, "cui bono?"

I really don’t want to debate the nuances of the bill because it undermines my point. If this was a CNN article ( actually, if it was a CNN article TS would not have posted it) we would apply a healthy dose of skepticism to the individual claims. But because it comes from Fox the claims are immaterial because really it’s the message that counts.

Suffice it to say I am not losing sleep worrying about whether I will personally get fined for taking a long romantic shower by myself tonight because my wife turned the TV on when I wouldn’t get off the computer.

You are correct regarding the bill. For anything to pass into law in this state requires at least 6 levels of subterfuge. Starting with the wording that most voters can’t understand (that’s another rant). It would be easy to say that the people who will benefit are the overreaching controlling liberals in power. And that may be all there is to it. I don’t usually put a hammer to that nail on this board because there are plenty of capable and willing people already doing it. But truthfully I don’t yet know. If there is a way to suck more taxes from businesses then bills seem to move right through. Rural areas seem to get the short end of the stick on this one. But loopholes and exceptions lobbying and kickbacks are what makes being a politician great.

California is in trouble. People are leaving and this state will implode eventually. The water issue is real but not an unsolvable problem. Capitalism will prevail with regards to the water issue. It takes a lot of energy to convert sea water to drinking water. But when there is a profit to be made… IMO it’s the higher taxes that will be required to fix the unfunded pensions that will ultimately break this state.

LHC

[RCummings]

Well said, LHC

I have often wondered why people who do not live in California seem to consider themselves subject matter experts on this subject. We are within a couple of weeks of leaving, not because of the repeated boondoggles or PG&E rates but to be closer to family. There are many great people and sights that we will miss. Life goes on and a consensus will again be reached, a balance. I do firmly believe in the system of checks and balances that should describe our local, state and federal government.

V/R

Bob

[Badger52]

LHC, thanks for the insights. I was born & raised there, but have been a spectator since '69 so, as Cooper would say, "it was a different country then." Probably still is in many areas but, as you say, those seem to get the short straw on a regular basis. Thanks.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by Last hard class

If this was a CNN article ( actually, if it was a CNN article TS would not have posted it) we would apply a healthy dose of skepticism to the individual claims.

That's not fair, my friend. Had he not, I would have.

It takes a lot of energy to convert sea water to drinking water. But when there is a profit to be made…

It does. They want to turn the, now decommissioned, Redondo Beach power plant into a park and they shut down San Onofre without a plan to replace it. How about several co-located Nuclear and desalination plants along the coast? Think that will fly?

IMO it’s the higher taxes that will be required to fix the unfunded pensions that will ultimately break this state.

LHC

I lived there over half my life and Nancy all of her life. Do you think we moved here for the weather? Don't be a spray nozzle!

(Don't worry guys, LHC gets the joke.)

Pat

[WarriorDiplomat]

Rationing is key in any socialist system they ration everything in order to redistribute, health care, energy, water? will the California ultra wealthy living in multi-million dollar homes behind walls with security become members of the Oligarchy or will they too be limited to 55 gallons per day?. What about farms in California will they be forced to dry farm like my home in southwest ks due to low aquifers and water drilling depth restrictions...would the production burden fall on the rest of the country to pick of the slack of the produce they do produce.? I wonder if his could turn into the Enron type thing with energy futures markets in which they gambled then manipulated the energy that led to deaths of people when they resisted and power miraculously became unavailable during summer months and citizens were forced to capitulate to the increased cost. For those who do not remember the California Energy Crisis of 2000-2001 in which a subsidiary of Enron corporation in which the company had invested in energy future values and in order to cover the hedged bet there was some insurance added through control of availability to raise value and cost hence producing profits in stock value.

California has had problems for a long time and given the hierarchy of requirements of survival such as in Mazlow's hierarchy of needs are becoming sanctuary cities to protect ILLEGAL immigrants, LGBTQ rights etc.....really so important in the scheme of life for California?. The fact that California elected are more concerned with these things than the states real needs just amplifies the unreal out of touch thinking of people like Pelosi, Feinstein and Kamala Harris(and they are on the senate intelligence committee?) are....my family that lives in California Modesto, Oakland and North lives are so busy getting by I don't think they really get the issues and the reps they have as well as what they do or don't do for the state.

[RCummings]

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[mojaveman]

How about several co-located Nuclear and desalination plants along the coast? Think that will fly?

Currently eight desalination plants are projected to be built over the next decade.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by mojaveman

Currently eight desalination plants are projected to be built over the next decade.

Where will they get the power to run them?

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by PSM

Where will they get the power to run them?

From outside Kalifornia, silly.

Can't have those nasty power plants contaminating the Green state, can we?

TR