02-16-2004, 20:42
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Origin of the phrase "nous défions"
I am interested in the origin/history of the phrase "nous défions", which is associated with SF. I have conducted online searches, but with negative results. I know a little about it, but would like confirmation and a better understanding. I've most often seen it on SF artwork and 'unofficial insignia' clothing items.
Thanks in advance.
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02-16-2004, 21:12
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"We dare"
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02-16-2004, 21:21
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"We defy"
"We dare" is "Osons", which I believe is the motto of Canadian airborne forces. A number of French units whose heritage goes back to the WW2 SAS use the related "Qui ose, gagne", or "Who dares, wins."
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02-17-2004, 00:42
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Mott Lake, late '70s, Project Bluelight; which later became the SOT Course.
I have no idea who in Bluelight had the idea; or if it came from elsewhere. I remember seeing the motto publicly on T-Shirts AFTER Bluelight stood down and became a school house.
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02-17-2004, 16:50
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Oops, you're correct AL, 'we dare' would be 'osons'. My bad. 'Nous defion' can also be translated as 'We challenge'.
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01-16-2005, 20:34
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Oops, you're correct AL, 'we dare' would be 'osons'. My bad. 'Nous defion' can also be translated as 'We challenge'.
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Somewhere I've got my "Nous Defions" patch. If I can find it, I'll scan it and post the pic.
For now I'm gonna try to post a pic of SFODA-522, when we were instructors at Mott Lake, SOT-D.
OK, having trouble with the pic-error message says my pic is too large-don't know how to reduce it.
If anyone can host it, I'll send the pic by email. If it works, I got pics from SOAR past and Crhistmas pics from SFA ChXV, featuring COL Bob Howard, MOH, as guest speaker!!!
So alla y'all 'puter wonks hep a Brutha out!!!!!!!
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01-16-2005, 21:16
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You can send it to me at XXX@XXX and I'll post it for you in your original post.
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Thanx Bro, Shot Out!!!!!!!!
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01-16-2005, 21:35
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How's that?
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Yeah, cool, jes thot I had it labelled, so I'll send you who everyone is.
Thanx NDD, 'preciate it!!!
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01-16-2005, 21:44
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NDD-
2nd shot out!!!!
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Nous Defions Mola
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01-16-2005, 22:46
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Originally Posted by TerribleTobyt
Somewhere I've got my "Nous Defions" patch. If I can find it, I'll scan it and post the pic.
For now I'm gonna try to post a pic of SFODA-522, when we were instructors at Mott Lake, SOT-D.
OK, having trouble with the pic-error message says my pic is too large-don't know how to reduce it.
If anyone can host it, I'll send the pic by email. If it works, I got pics from SOAR past and Christmas pics from SFA ChXV, featuring COL Bob Howard, MOH, as guest speaker!!!
So alla y'all 'puter wonks hep a Brutha out!!!!!!!
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This pic was taken circa '82.
ODA-522, SOT-D, Mott Lake.
Standing-SSG Tim Brooks, SSg Fred Cox, SSG Mike Keevil, SSG Brad Arvidsson.
Kneeling-SFC Don Ringley, SFC Toby Todd, CPT Steve Aspera, SFC Gilbert Woods (Tm SGT), SFC Larry White.
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01-17-2005, 10:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TerribleTobyt
This pic was taken circa '82.
ODA-522, SOT-D, Mott Lake.
Standing-SSG Tim Brooks, SSg Fred Cox, SSG Mike Keevil, SSG Brad Arvidsson.
Kneeling-SFC Don Ringley, SFC Toby Todd, CPT Steve Aspera, SFC Gilbert Woods (Tm SGT), SFC Larry White.
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Toby,
I was on ODA-514 in 83. (Out of all those names I only remember Don Ringley.)
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01-17-2005, 20:40
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Toby,
I was on ODA-514 in 83. (Out of all those names I only remember Don Ringley.)
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I believe the team from CoA/1/5 was ODA-513, could be wrong tho. Paul Poole was the TS, Ben Butler, Gene Whitley, Jack (CRS last name, but doubled as the armorer at SOT-D), acuppola others.
There was also a 7th Gp team, as well. Ratman was on that team, and he and I worked Stress Reaction.
Geez, I suddenly feel old!!!!!
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