Femoral Shock - Page 2

Smokin Joe · 09-19-2004, 13:46

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Originally Posted by DanUCSB

Oh, absolutely. I think just about all of us would agree that there is no single foolproof technique that will work every time--if there were, there'd be a whole lot of instructors out of business. My point was simply that if it gets down to it, going for the groin will most likely get you a more dramatic effect.

I don't think we're really disagreeing here, though.

Yup, we are on the same sheet of music.

But I'm not going to train on this as it seems like my time would be better spent on axe handles and driving the head back.

**The Reaper** · 09-19-2004, 14:44

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Originally Posted by Smokin Joe

Yup, we are on the same sheet of music.

But I'm not going to train on this as it seems like my time would be better spent on axe handles and driving the head back.

Well, now, if you are going to start using axe handles, it takes a bit of the sport out of it, what?

How do you conceal them?

TR

Smokin Joe · 09-19-2004, 21:38

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Originally Posted by The Reaper

Well, now, if you are going to start using axe handles, it takes a bit of the sport out of it, what?

How do you conceal them?

TR

I've been watching those 'Highlander' Movies lately and they can conceal those broad swords so I think I can conceal an axe handle.

The only downside is I have to wear a trench coat, in Arizona, in the summer.

Actually Sir, I mis-spoke its the axe hand, to the Juglar that I was refering to.

**The Reaper** · 09-19-2004, 23:04

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Originally Posted by Smokin Joe

I've been watching those 'Highlander' Movies lately and they can conceal those broad swords so I think I can conceal an axe handle.

The only downside is I have to wear a trench coat, in Arizona, in the summer.

Actually Sir, I mis-spoke its the axe hand, to the Juglar that I was refering to.

Thought you were going Lester Maddux on me.

TR

Smokin Joe · 09-20-2004, 16:44

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Originally Posted by The Reaper

Thought you were going Lester Maddux on me.

TR

No SIR! Not on my life would I go that route.

Big Chief · 10-28-2004, 10:08

I have never heard of femoral shock before, but it sounds theoretically vaild. How likely is it to happen? It would take one hell of a shot on a moving, fully-intentioned opponent. But, so would a finger jab to the eye = small target, heavilly guarded, moving, and being used by someone who is not too happy.

Any leg kick works well if it effects the opponent's balance/center of gravity. If you get the shock value from such a strike - great! If not, at least you have chopped down the tree and put him in a less mobile/more accessible position. Once on the ground you can go Gangsta and apply liberal kicks to about anywhere.

A shot to the groin can work very well if the opponent is unaware, but like someone else mentioned - if they are ready for it, they might just grimmace. Any technique that relies on pain to subdue an opponent is risky in my book. Its better to make an attack the creates structural damage - usually a joint, neck, spine, bust ear drums, eye (if possible). There are a variety options.

Personally, I take many lessons from nature and almost all animals go for the throat. One of the best targets.... air, super heavy blood flow, tons of nerves, and the only skeletal protection is a highly-vulnerable chain called the "spinal collumn." Just about any hit to the neck will do tremendous damage (but take it easy on your Ukes/buddies).

My $0.02

sandytroop · 11-22-2004, 09:26

All you PPCT guys recognize that as the strike to the common peroneal nerve. If your stick it in there, PPCT "Fluid Strike" style, it will certainly get a guy to go to neutral. Great when "escorting" unruly subects, you can stick it with a knee to the big nerve. In a fight, any solid hit to a nerve bundle beats a solid hit to a muscle... there's just so much more interresting stuff in nerve bundles!

Basenshukai · 11-22-2004, 15:50

I've been hit in this area and it put me down fast. If the strike is accurate, it's very effective. If it's not that accurate, it hurts tremendously anyway.

My teacher was/is a big believer in showing the actual effects of these strikes so we experienced quite a few of them first-hand. SERE also presents a nice demostration of some of them.

sandytroop · 11-22-2004, 15:59

No dout, I walked funny for a week after my PPCT Instructor's course. Your nerves take a pounding there, and it certainly made me a believer in target selection. I still suck at it, but close to a nerve is always an improvement over the usual flailing.

Smokin Joe · 11-22-2004, 16:37

I agree the common perenoal is a good hit but my original question was about striking the Femoral Area of the thigh (inside the leg in between the groin and the knee).

Has anyone ever tried striking this area? I have yet to be able to K.O. someone by hitting or kicking them in this area. I'm thinking that in order for this to work it would have to be enough force to dislocate the knee as well as K.O. someone.

Any thoughts?

sandytroop · 11-22-2004, 17:34

Sorry about that, I am obviously spacing it. In PPCT world that fermoral strike is used to stun an advancing attacker, but I've never experienced it outside of training (where my practice partner misplaced it and gave me a real interresting pain in my knee....). I think it's a lot like any other nerve involvement; if you hit it hard, it's likey to be quite effective. A good place to strike, but hard to get to. Sorry it took me so long to pull my head out.