10-19-2010, 16:15
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I meant the Steve Austin bio-mechanically re-built Six Million Dollar Man,, not on steroids..
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I got an email from a former TM SGT who shall remain nameless (Mr. Furious) who asked if I was kidding about not knowing Steve Austin (pilot/bio-guy type not wrestler)..... Eddy me kid around.....never. 
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10-19-2010, 17:05
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I got an email from a former TM SGT who shall remain nameless (Mr. Furious) who asked if I was kidding about not knowing Steve Austin (pilot/bio-guy type not wrestler)..... Eddy me kid around.....never. |
U's guys need a beer..
Or several..
Put the next round on my tab...
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10-19-2010, 18:19
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I knew that JJ, but was afraid some of the younger ones didn't!
By the way, here are 7 "Special Forces physiques" - 1971 vintage...
Edit: To answer Big T's question - I am the one in the tee shirt, kneeling.
11B/C course - just after New Year's, '71. We called ourselves "The Magnificent Seven"!
(Yes, we were full of it!) But the only guy with a "big" physique was J. Gehres, with his head above and on the left side of mine.
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That's pretty much the way I remember it too, and most never had any "pre" SFAS training or mentoring. Just "the guts", "the will", and "the want".
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10-19-2010, 18:51
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That's pretty much the way I remember it too, and most never had any "pre" SFAS training or mentoring. Just "the guts", "the will", and "the want".
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Exactly. In my experience, judging a man's toughness solely by his size will make a fool of you 9 times out of 10.
Richard 
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10-19-2010, 20:46
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I was probably 145-150 lbs...at 5'10".....Physique had nothing to do with it...Mindset and determination was the key.
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10-20-2010, 13:16
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Well to all you guys that weren't 6' 1", 240 lb.,(31"waist)and especially being from Chicago,should consider yourselves lucky because if you were,you would have been f**ked with by the cadre every time they felt like screwing around with the "big guy"time.....  Enough said!........ So much for having a Special Forces physique...........
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10-26-2010, 18:02
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Great Photo. The bulging biceps are scary....
TFS- You are right. I was one of the tall ones(6'4"). The only thing my size was good for was to be assigned to carry the A-6.
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10-26-2010, 18:15
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Great Photo. The bulging biceps are scary....
TFS- You are right. I was one of the tall ones(6'4"). The only thing my size was good for was to be assigned to carry the A-6.
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I still got to carry the A-6, I guess because of the bulging biceps! I was "wiry"!
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11-26-2010, 20:06
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11-26-2010, 20:10
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I see some others have beat me to it.
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11-26-2010, 20:58
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Special Forces Physique
Yeah, studliness developed over time. Here's your average unremarkable SFOD-A in 1976.
"Mean-mugging" the camera optional
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11-26-2010, 21:16
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Inverted Crawl
Couldn't be too bulgy otherwise you'd take a header coming back when doing the inverted crawl.
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11-26-2010, 21:17
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Great photo
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Yeah, studliness developed over time. Here's your average unremarkable SFOD-A in 1976.
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The irony, the XO (1LT), has the newest duds. The guy in ODs is hiding out in back.
Kinda like the USMC style of rolling up the sleeves, army should have kept it also. Always wished I was old enough to have had my SGT stipes on my arm rather then my collar.
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11-26-2010, 21:30
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Big Teddy,...
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Well to all you guys that weren't 6' 1", 240 lb.,(31"waist)and especially being from Chicago,should consider yourselves lucky because if you were,you would have been f**ked with by the cadre every time they felt like screwing around with the "big guy"time..... Enough said!........ So much for having a Special Forces physique...........
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Hey brother, 6'0", 190-200lbs, (depending on what was in the DFAC).
Got smoked many times by our good man, CSM Perry Davis, who at best was 5'6" 150 lbs., with rucksack, (Sorry CSM, couldn't help it, I'll go do T-bones, well done if I remember).
Second small guy I knew was "Light", 10th Grp, Germany, 1982.
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11-26-2010, 21:47
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Yes, that was when the very first cammy BDU's were issued, the ones that shrank like a M-F when you first washed them. Also hot as hell on a North Carolina summer since the chemicals in them absorbed IR as well as visible light.
SFC "OG's" Magdaleno later made CSM.
We didn't worry about a "physique" or any kind of "tables" or "BMI" or "percentages." If the Captain said run five miles, we ran five miles. If the Captain said run ten miles we ran ten miles. If he said "rough terrain jump with LBE/CWIE/ruck" we rigged it up and out we went, even if we had never made a rough terrrain jump before.
I think if he said "we want to see if we can jump a 75mm pack howitzer" some of us would have immediately started thinking: "Now, if I take two H-harnesses and put them end-to-end, and use two lowering lines ...".
If anybody then had said "branch chain amino acids with some complex carbs" we would have wondered what college course he was taking (or what drugs he was taking, dude).
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Mental Atttitude can be greater than one (a multiplier) or
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