05-27-2004, 20:01
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The Blademaster said stress...
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Col. Rex Applegate and i discussed this several times. both shooting and hand to hand fighting had some common factors, training the reflexes for emergency stress response had a lot to do with success or not.
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I love this topic. Who can tell us the physiological reactions to stress as pertains to this topic and how it impacts on your ability to respond to a threat?
STOP LOOKING IT UP!
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
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05-27-2004, 20:04
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I'll stand by for just a bit here...edited to say I'll repeat what Col. Applagate taught me if no else replies...
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05-27-2004, 20:12
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Ok, six minutes have gone by, Here's a hint, "incorporating a humans natural stress response to close sudden danger"
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05-27-2004, 20:22
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Fight or flight ?
Increased heart rate ?
Dry mouth ?
Sweaty palms ?
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05-27-2004, 20:24
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before all that.
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05-27-2004, 20:25
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Ummmmmmm
I'm out
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05-27-2004, 20:25
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Fight or flight ?
Increased heart rate ?
Dry mouth ?
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All of the above, which also leads to degradation of fine muscle skills.
Kill, or be killed. Monkey stomp, or be monkey stomped.
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05-27-2004, 20:28
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Any fight I've ever been in I've felt that before it happened
Last time was this winter when some buddies and I were jumped by a group of punks
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05-27-2004, 20:29
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before all that.
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Eye dilation?
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05-27-2004, 20:31
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Check out your surroundings
What can you use and what could be used against you
How can you get out if you have to
How many bad guys are there - who should you stomp first
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05-27-2004, 20:31
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BIG Time Adrenaline Dump and all of it's insidious side effects !! Learning how to control yourself during that phase is imperative. Then, after the "Inducers" are gone, to be able to maintain a rational thought process and di..di.. in a proper fashion is in order !!
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05-27-2004, 20:32
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All of the above, which also leads to degradation of fine muscle skills.
Kill, or be killed. Monkey stomp, or be monkey stomped.
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Yes I think we are talking about instinctive response of big muscle groups, or the whole body.
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05-27-2004, 20:39
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Ummmmmmm
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No your not, go back to flight or fight. It all begins just before then.
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05-27-2004, 20:42
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AM gave you the first one and primary casual factor. You guys should know this, your life depends on it - this is an OODA Loop killer.
Reaper and Blademaster are practically giving you the answers.
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ghuinness,
Do you mean tunnel vision?
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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05-27-2004, 20:43
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