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Old 07-13-2020, 15:23   #526
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More and more friends and colleagues are commending me for getting out of Colorado when I did. Some even curse me for it.
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Heard that from my friends and family who still live there.
Definitely not the same state where I spent the first 30 years of life.
I moved here from Tennessee for my wife’s job after I retired. I cannot wait to get the hell out of here and never look back.
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I moved here from Tennessee for my wife’s job after I retired. I cannot wait to get the hell out of here and never look back.
It's the "other" virus spreading. Kalifornianz infected their state and are spreading into Colorado, Idaho and other less socialist locales. Likewise on the East Coast where New Hampshire is being overrun by Massholes escaping the tax state they created there.
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Old 07-14-2020, 09:11   #528
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It's the "other" virus spreading. Kalifornianz infected their state and are spreading into Colorado, Idaho and other less socialist locales. Likewise on the East Coast where New Hampshire is being overrun by Massholes escaping the tax state they created there.
It pisses me off that they're polluting Idaho as well. But at least here in Idaho, any mention of BLM/ISIS/Anti-First Amendment/communist/socialist/etc showing up to cause mayhem are met with heavily armed and polite citizens. And strangely, no riots ever develop. Hmmm.
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Old 07-14-2020, 12:11   #529
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THE CANCEROUS LIBERALS:

The radical liberals are spreading and bringing the cancer they have along with their movement, DO NOT make them feel comfortable or accepted they will never reciprocate and will not change their immoral beliefs ...
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I read an article today that described the leftist activities as an "insurgency."

Do you PS guys think that's an accurate description?
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Old 07-14-2020, 17:39   #531
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I read an article today that described the leftist activities as an "insurgency."

Do you PS guys think that's an accurate description?
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/...h/insurrection

Depends if the end goal is to overthrow the entire system of Government
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Old 07-14-2020, 17:42   #532
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It pisses me off that they're polluting Idaho as well. But at least here in Idaho, any mention of BLM/ISIS/Anti-First Amendment/communist/socialist/etc showing up to cause mayhem are met with heavily armed and polite citizens. And strangely, no riots ever develop. Hmmm.
Well you know what they say...an armed society is a polite society
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Old 07-14-2020, 18:06   #533
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On the communist threat...video embedded in article at link.

WATCH: Cuban Immigrant Warns About the Deadly 'Pill' Americans Are About to Swallow
Beth Baumann
Jul 12, 2020 11:10 AM
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Cuban immigrant Maximo Alvarez issued a stark warning to Americans last week during a roundtable meeting last week with President Donald Trump. According to Alvarez, the President of Sunshine Gasoline, the American Dream is at risk of being destroyed by the Left. The tactics that are being used are the same ones he saw in Communist Cuba when he was 11-years-old.

"We come over here, in my case because my parents chose that I would not be indoctrinated by the communist country, by the totalitarian country, by the totalitarian regime. They don’t educate children. Absolutely not. And this is something that we need to understand. What is happening in our backyard today, I experienced as an 11-year-old. I remember vividly all the promises that a guy named Castro gave, and how 99 percent of the people swallowed the pill," he warned. "It took many years later, after I read somebody named Saul Alinsky, that I realized that all those people were nothing but useful idiots. I remember Castro while in the mountains being interviewed and asked if he was a communist. He went crazy. ... He was going to save Cuba. I remember how he promised to the farmers, to the wahitos that you’re going to own the land. I remember all the promises that we hear today about free education and free health care and free land."

Alvarez reminded people that Fidel Castro abolished the police, the military and even took over the Catholic church. The immigrant's dad, however, saw through Castro's words because he experienced the same thing under communist Spain. Alvarez's father saw parallel's between Castro and his home country.

The businessman explained that the left uses fancy terms and promises to try and indoctrinate others. It's the same tactics he saw in Cuba.

"Talking about socialism, Catholic church, 14,000 kids who came like me in this country without parents. And we were provided an opportunity. This is what makes our country great. They didn’t give me free nothing, they gave me the opportunity. That is the most valuable thing in the world," Alvarez explained. "Now, when I said they didn’t give me any free something, please understand that at 13-years-old, I had to be provided with a home, had to be provided with food, and an education. That is socialism, that’s Americanism, that’s the America that these people are trying to destroy today by using funny terms like 'socialism.' They’re not, they’re communists. Don’t ever forget that."

Alvarez's biggest warning, however, came directly from his father, who saw what life was like in Spain, Cuba and the United States: do whatever you have to to protect the American Dream.

"Never forget about my dad who only had a sixth-grade education, but I think he was the greatest philosopher I ever met. He used to tell us how lucky he was because he was able to come from Spain to Cuba. And then he came from Cuba to [the] United States and he saw me graduate from college, and that was the biggest prize he ever had. And he said, 'Don’t lose this place because you’re never going to be as lucky as me. Because if you lose this place, you have no place to go,'" Alvarez recounted.

"So with that, please keep that in mind. And please, people, explain that to our young people who are demonstrating out there. Don’t be useful idiots," he said. "Please understand what’s happening in our country. See what happens to our parents and see what is happening to America today."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethba...swall-n2572332
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Old 07-14-2020, 18:54   #534
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On the communist threat...video embedded in article at link.

WATCH: Cuban Immigrant Warns About the Deadly 'Pill' Americans Are About to Swallow
Beth Baumann
Jul 12, 2020 11:10 AM
Town Hall


Cuban immigrant Maximo Alvarez issued a stark warning to Americans last week during a roundtable meeting last week with President Donald Trump. According to Alvarez, the President of Sunshine Gasoline, the American Dream is at risk of being destroyed by the Left. The tactics that are being used are the same ones he saw in Communist Cuba when he was 11-years-old.

"We come over here, in my case because my parents chose that I would not be indoctrinated by the communist country, by the totalitarian country, by the totalitarian regime. They don’t educate children. Absolutely not. And this is something that we need to understand. What is happening in our backyard today, I experienced as an 11-year-old. I remember vividly all the promises that a guy named Castro gave, and how 99 percent of the people swallowed the pill," he warned. "It took many years later, after I read somebody named Saul Alinsky, that I realized that all those people were nothing but useful idiots. I remember Castro while in the mountains being interviewed and asked if he was a communist. He went crazy. ... He was going to save Cuba. I remember how he promised to the farmers, to the wahitos that you’re going to own the land. I remember all the promises that we hear today about free education and free health care and free land."

Alvarez reminded people that Fidel Castro abolished the police, the military and even took over the Catholic church. The immigrant's dad, however, saw through Castro's words because he experienced the same thing under communist Spain. Alvarez's father saw parallel's between Castro and his home country.

The businessman explained that the left uses fancy terms and promises to try and indoctrinate others. It's the same tactics he saw in Cuba.

"Talking about socialism, Catholic church, 14,000 kids who came like me in this country without parents. And we were provided an opportunity. This is what makes our country great. They didn’t give me free nothing, they gave me the opportunity. That is the most valuable thing in the world," Alvarez explained. "Now, when I said they didn’t give me any free something, please understand that at 13-years-old, I had to be provided with a home, had to be provided with food, and an education. That is socialism, that’s Americanism, that’s the America that these people are trying to destroy today by using funny terms like 'socialism.' They’re not, they’re communists. Don’t ever forget that."

Alvarez's biggest warning, however, came directly from his father, who saw what life was like in Spain, Cuba and the United States: do whatever you have to to protect the American Dream.

"Never forget about my dad who only had a sixth-grade education, but I think he was the greatest philosopher I ever met. He used to tell us how lucky he was because he was able to come from Spain to Cuba. And then he came from Cuba to [the] United States and he saw me graduate from college, and that was the biggest prize he ever had. And he said, 'Don’t lose this place because you’re never going to be as lucky as me. Because if you lose this place, you have no place to go,'" Alvarez recounted.

"So with that, please keep that in mind. And please, people, explain that to our young people who are demonstrating out there. Don’t be useful idiots," he said. "Please understand what’s happening in our country. See what happens to our parents and see what is happening to America today."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethba...swall-n2572332
I have a Chinese neighbor that is really freaked out as they see the elements leading up to Mao's "Great Leap Forward"

Estimates are 18 to 45 MILLION Dead...
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Old 07-14-2020, 19:40   #535
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I have a Chinese neighbor that is really freaked out as they see the elements leading up to Mao's "Great Leap Forward"

Estimates are 18 to 45 MILLION Dead...
Your neighbor and the quoted Cuban immigrant Maximo Alvarez are freaked out because as you say they have witnessed the precursors to this movie before.

Now, witnessing something similar metastasizing in the city streets and universities of this great nation must fill them with dread.
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Old 07-14-2020, 21:04   #536
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That is socialism, that’s Americanism, that’s the America that these people are trying to destroy today by using funny terms like 'socialism.' They’re not, they’re communists. Don’t ever forget that."
Always said, a "socialist" is just a Communist that hasn't pulled their gun on you. Yet.
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The Radical Left Will Never Tolerate a Messiah Who Actually Arrives
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September 26, 2020

The worldview of the radical left offers many dizzying contradictions and fantasies. One of the strangest is the extent of indifference and even hostility with which radical leftists treat those who deliver on the very vision they so tirelessly advocate.

There are myriad examples, some so obvious that articulating them seems like shaking the foundation of the postmodern reality (or anti-reality) in which we live.

The most diverse societies in the word are those most often condemned for lack of diversity.

The cultures and groups who've been most welcoming to outsiders — perhaps the most welcoming in all of human history — are also condemned as the most hateful and intolerant.

Environmentalism, a noble cause that often rubs elbows with the radical left, will elevate to celebrity status a sixteen-year-old sophist for criticizing and denouncing but give almost no attention to successful initiatives and projects to clean oceans or conserve nature. When zoologist Susan Crockford found that polar bears were in fact thriving, and not vanishing from global warming, she lost her job at the University of Victoria.

This is what radical leftists do to messiahs who have the gall to actually arrive and ruin their fanatical churches. They crucify them.

The most flagrant example is at the center of Marxism. It bears repeating that the original goal of Marxism was the creation of wealth and elimination of poverty. The early Marxists all believed that communism created more wealth that capitalism and was therefore superior to it. Over a hundred million people died in pursuit of this goal. Writers, artists, priests, university professors, entire families, entire villages, entire nations were annihilated.

They tried to make it true by pretending it was true, resulting in countless absurdities, the "Ryazan miracle" being one of the most outrageous. And if you didn't pretend then, as they say today, "silence was violence." You were either killed or relegated to poverty for not participating in the collective illusion.

By the mid-1950s, the poverty and deprivation of communism were impossible to ignore. So what did they do, these people who had slaughtered scores of millions in pursuit of a better wealth-generating socio-economic system when they saw that in fact capitalism created more wealth and ended more poverty? They abandoned their raison d'être as if it had never existed and doubled down on their condemnation of capitalism by rewriting the script (again). Forget wealth. Forget ending poverty. Capitalism was evil because it created inequality.

Equality is perhaps a better messiah for the left, because it's the kind that will never show up and spoil all the radical, civilization-destroying fun.

Remember the words of Bolshevik Yurii Piatakov from 1928: "ordinary people in general, cannot make an instant change, a turn, amputating their own convictions. ... We are not like other people. We are a party who make the impossible possible. ... And if the party demands it, if it is necessary or important for the party, we will be able by an act of will to expel from our brains in twenty-four hours ideas we have held for years. ... Yes, I will see black where I thought I saw white, or may still see it, because for me there is no life outside the party or apart from agreement with it."

At the far left fringes, which have grown frighteningly influential, it seems they are not interested in solution, but in power, and for that, problems are infinitely superior to solutions.

When communists win and get the policies they scream for, or seize control of the institutions they covet, there never seems to be a period when they just get on with life and demonstrate the superiority (much less the viability) of their system. Faced with the consequences of their policies, they seem to revert to their core competency: revolution and liquidation of heretics.

Before the Communist Revolution, tsarist minister of internal affairs Pyotr Arkadyevich Stolypin was assassinated in the Kiev Opera House. As described in The Soviet Tragedy, he was a reformer who would have instituted at least some of the policies for which the communists agitated. For that, they killed him. They did not want their demands met. They wanted revolution.

After the disaster of what Lenin's generation of Bolsheviks called "communism" (full stop), they renamed it "war communism," and establish the NEP, which resembled an oligarchic market economy. Trotsky then attempted to focus the party on a policy of "Permanent Revolution," exporting the revolution (and mass murder) to other countries. Stalin, by contrast, focused on identifying and liquidating internal enemies, saboteurs, and ideological "deviationists," and for all its history, the Soviet Union was grinding poverty and successive "revolutions from above," each promising the final redemption and paradise of communism.

The Kronstadt rebellion was an insurrection at a naval base in the Bolshevik government in 1921, carried out by loyal communists who had fought with the Red Army during the revolution. Their demands included democratic appointment of local officials, freedom of speech, the right to use one's own land, and some semblance of equality — all promises of communist propaganda. The Red Army, led by Trotsky, crushed the uprising, negotiated a surrender, and then betrayed the terms and executed hundreds of sailors. The term "Kronstadt moment" is still used to describe the moment of someone's disillusionment with a leftist cause.

One the most fascinating stories of the early Soviet Union is that of anarcho-communist Nestor Makhno and his "Black Army." Makhno was a loyal and fanatical communist who'd been imprisoned from an early age for violent communist agitation, barely escaping the death penalty. He fought an effective and creative asymmetric war against the forces of the Russian tsar.

Lenin is rumored, albeit by Makhno's own account, to have said that he'd rather the tsarist white forces take all of Ukraine than let Makhno expand his territory by a single step. Makhno ideologically subverted Bolshevik efforts by being a truer to Marxism and actually delivering on some of their promises, like local, democratically elected "Soviets."

Many of the Bolshevik soldiers sent to crush Makhno would instead convert to his cause. Later, under the guise of negotiating cooperation against tsarist forces, Leon Trotsky invited Makhno's forces to a planning session, and there, on the 25th or 26th of November 1920, all of Makhno's commanders were arrested and executed. Nestor escaped. Trotsky then ordered the assassinations of thousands of Ukrainian villagers who were loyal to the "Makhnovists" and mustered overwhelming force — a force of 350,000 men equipped with heavy artillery to crush the remaining Makhnovists, whose numbers had dwindled to only 10,000. There is no live and let live among communists, nor can there be.

Lenin is rumored to have said that if they tried their revolution in a small country, it would have been over in months. They have to build the Tower of Babel to keep their illusion going. They fear the contrast of side-by-side societies.

And this seems to be one of several good strategies for dealing with the radical left. Keep things decentralized and local. Let contrasts emerge between their society and ours. The arrival of their messiah will completely spoil their fanaticism.

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America's Second Civil War:

This war is advancing rapidly to a point where separation between the radical, communist left AKA The Democrat Party and The Other side The GOP, Libertarian's, Conservatives, actually anyone who is not a believer in Karl Marx positions, theory, Lies about "THE STATE". This situation in The U S A is beyond debate. The Nov. 3 2020 Election Results will determine the course for the U S A as we knew it. I am not sure that it will be a peaceful resolution, Both sides will claim victory and may let the courts decide the winner. Pay attention to the confirmation hearings of Amy Coney Barrett. This will be an indication of how the future of this country will proceed.
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Old 09-27-2020, 16:30   #539
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We don't have to "square off" with these FARCers. Don't give them exactly what they want. They're going to get what they're asking for all on their own as they find they don't have as much 'ocean' to swim in as they think. Them big cities take a lot to keep runnin'.
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When this started, we should have gone with the adage, "Go ugly early!" Too late for that. Now it's just going to get messy. I hope that there are some retired and former vets getting ready to apply their skills at home where they are needed most.
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