05-15-2017, 06:16
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Army uniform board to consider bringing back iconic 'pinks and greens' uniform
Army uniform board to consider bringing back iconic 'pinks and greens' uniform
https://www.armytimes.com/articles/a...greens-uniform
"What's old is new again as Sergeant Major of the Army Dan Dailey pushes ahead on bringing back a vintage uniform.
The Army's top enlisted soldier is heading to the next uniform board meeting, armed with the results of an exclusive Army Times survey, to make the case for bringing back an iconic, World War II era uniform for everyday business wear, he told Army Times in an interview this week.
"That was the uniform of the 'Greatest Generation.' There was a lot of prestige and honor associated with that. The American public identified with that uniform," he said. "We think that is more appropriate than trying to create something new." ..."
This will push the Blues back up to a dress uniform.
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05-15-2017, 10:04
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Please do this Mother Army....that Blues abomination is an...well, an abomination and the ugliest damn conglomeration of shit I've ever seen. Bar none.
Right up there with N Korea in uniform beauty.
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05-15-2017, 13:09
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Having spent a fair bit of time amongst the leaf-eaters, I'm not sure todays fat-bastige soldiers can fit in these.
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05-15-2017, 14:46
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Pink and Greens
Pink and Greens was an officer's uniform.
Enlisted wore the OD(brownish) pants, jacket and shirt. Due to variations in contractors the shades of the enlisted could vary a bit - but never enough to be confused with P&G's. This uniform transitioned into the dark green pants and jacket with the khaki poplin shirt and black tie.
JimP - the Ike Jacket is a whole different kettle of fish and did enjoy a period of favor and was kicked around the summer of 2015 as a uniform update.
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05-15-2017, 14:50
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Originally Posted by JimP
Having spent a fair bit of time amongst the leaf-eaters, I'm not sure todays fat-bastige soldiers can fit in these.
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I don't think that they are talking the Ike jacket. There was a love-hate relationship with that even at the time ... as it would constantly ride up and need to be pulled down let alone not being very forgiving to any little change in body composition.
We need to get over this bad experiment and go back to what made sense. Class B's, Class A's (brown, or green....anything but what we have now) and then Dress and Mess blue uniforms. IF you are an NCO of whatever grade or below...no need to maintain a blue uniform wear A's with a bow tie as necessary. Officers and senior (read: Career) NCOs suck it up and buy the uniform and take a tax deduction...
Put the damn unit patch back on a new A uniform and get all the combat patch pins off the Dress Blues. Good lord... Black Jump Boots with Blue Pants with a yellow stripe tucked in with a white shirt and a Green Beret. What a disaster.
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05-15-2017, 16:02
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Originally Posted by Pete
Pink and Greens was an officer's uniform.
Enlisted wore the OD(brownish) pants, jacket and shirt. Due to variations in contractors the shades of the enlisted could vary a bit - but never enough to be confused with P&G's. This uniform transitioned into the dark green pants and jacket with the khaki poplin shirt and black tie.
JimP - the Ike Jacket is a whole different kettle of fish and did enjoy a period of favor and was kicked around the summer of 2015 as a uniform update.
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I did a little google fu. There was a multiplicity of P&G. Some had the cloth belt, others leather, some had the leather belt with the strap over the shoulder. If you look at the picture with Ike and several others, there is at least three or four different shades and a couple styles..
I think most O's and Sr NCO's had the uniforms tailored, so the material was "as available".
I liked the wash-n-waar poplin we had for summers in the 60't & 70t's. I think it would be THE material choice for a retro P&G,, maybe with a darker brown jacket.
There was also the tan uniform the Audie Murphy wore after the war,, but so did Ike and General Westmoreland into the early 60t's
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05-15-2017, 20:52
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Having spent a fair bit of time amongst the leaf-eaters, I'm not sure todays fat-bastige soldiers can fit in these.
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Precisely.
None of those uniforms look good on people with extra weight.
What are they thinking this time?
TR
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05-15-2017, 21:30
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Precisely.
None of those uniforms look good on people with extra weight.
What are they thinking this time?
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He's not recommending the Ike jacket....just something similar to the old Greens, a full jacket, maybe with an integral belt. In a traditional Army brown or green.
I hope like all hell he is successful....the Army looks like unkempt/color blind fools in that blue abomination.
Since when do you design anything in the military to assist fat people? Wrong way to think. No uniform looks good on fatties....maybe a full Burka.
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05-16-2017, 07:39
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As Pete points out, Pinks and Greens were for officers. The enlisted uniforms of the period weren't nearly as "flattering". If they want to bring back a "retro" uniform for Class B wear, my vote goes for TWs (en lieu of khakis).
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05-16-2017, 10:12
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As Pete points out, Pinks and Greens were for officers. The enlisted uniforms of the period weren't nearly as "flattering". If they want to bring back a "retro" uniform for Class B wear, my vote goes for TWs (en lieu of khakis).
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I agree the TWs were the best office work uniform ever.
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05-16-2017, 11:57
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I agree the TWs were the best office work uniform ever.
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Also on the list of those glad for never having to endure that current blue abomination, and being satisfied with basic OD utilities or jungle fatigues; on parade that blue thing it looks kind of like Salvation Army-Auxiliary (not meant disparagingly toward the SA but I've had to answer questions at holidays on main street to answer "now who are those guys...?").
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05-16-2017, 17:08
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Well, as stated, anything you have to tuck in...wouldn't work so well with some of the soldiers I've seen around. I'm talking khakis, I'm not familiar with "pinks and greens".. I came in in '78, we had khakis and green class A's.
I've been retired for 18yrs, and I am thinner that some of the soldiers I have seen..and I'm at 230#'s 
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05-16-2017, 18:12
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You fellas are going the wrong way here!
Daily uniform in the team room was either boots and utes or my favorite...
Ranger panties, team t-shirt (untucked), and an SF themed ball cap! Seriously, can you fight in pinks and greens? You can in Ranger panties!
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05-16-2017, 20:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
Precisely.
None of those uniforms look good on people with extra weight.
What are they thinking this time?
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It's not what they are thinking, it's what the contractors are wanting.
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05-17-2017, 03:34
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Originally Posted by Go Devil
It's not what they are thinking, it's what the contractors are wanting.
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And retired GO's who have dibs in the companies...
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