Best Course You Have Attended? - Page 4

MtnGoat · 10-14-2006, 17:19

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Originally Posted by gtcrispy

Hmm sounds like I better be asking for these two.

These are two course that I think every ODA needs. If you go down range, you don't ahve one it can get you in a jam. You'll have to do up your own -2s, but how? It happen to me on a JECT. My ran out during the JECT and the Airforce would budge on the date issue.

18C related courses:

Hazard devices school (HDS)

Most informational would be a tie:

USASOC Mountain Course, and the GATOR course http://www.omems.redstone.army.mil/d...12&page_id=242

NousDefions794 · 10-19-2006, 21:21

Most bestest, funnest Army school every SFARTAETC. As an 18C I learned a lot .

18C specific:

Breaching/explosive courses at Olive/TEES. I didn't go through as a student, but I was an invited guest and was able to see the training first hand.

82ndtrooper · 10-20-2006, 16:38

As a conventional soldier with the 82nd Airborne Division I attended the Jumpmaster course which at that time was held at Pope Air Force base. It was absolutely one of toughest courses to pass at that time. I've never been so fatigued in my life having to JMPI and entire stick in less than 10 minutes. I dont know what the testing standards are today, but it was no cake walk to earn that star and twigs over my wings.

Pathfinder course was fun, but I didn't really care for sling loading anything under an UH-60 at night. SHOCK factor knocked a couple of guy's to the ground. As a matter of a fact I witnessed one of our gun sections "CUT LOOSE" a 105 in flight during a night infil.

**Jack Moroney (RIP)** · 10-20-2006, 19:01

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Originally Posted by 82ndtrooper

SHOCK factor knocked a couple of guy's to the ground. .

Ahh yes, but this does have a teaching value. I had a counter-part that I am sure was a double agent and not at all well liked by his own folks. I convinced him that he could build his own self-esteem and gain respect from his men by a daring display of professionalism and skill in slinging out a truck via a CH-54, but I "guess" he didn't hear me when I passed him the doughnut and told him not to touch the hook on that flying crane when he attempted to attach the slings. Not a pretty sight, but very instructive

82ndtrooper · 10-20-2006, 19:35

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Originally Posted by Jack Moroney

Ahh yes, but this does have a teaching value. I had a counter-part that I am sure was a double agent and not at all well liked by his own folks. I convinced him that he could build his own self-esteem and gain respect from his men by a daring display of professionalism and skill in slinging out a truck via a CH-54, but I "guess" he didn't hear me when I passed him the doughnut and told him not to touch the hook on that flying crane when he attempted to attach the slings. Not a pretty sight, but very instructive

Yeah, it's got it's teaching factor thrown in there. Just glad I listened to the men like yourself when I had to actually do it.

Monsoon65 · 10-20-2006, 19:46

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Originally Posted by Jack Moroney

Ahh yes, but this does have a teaching value.

"Law of Intensity" I believe it's call, Sir. When I was at NCO Leadership school at Rhein Main, a friend gave the definition of this with an example: They were fast-roping and a man failed to get clear quick enough, and the guy above him came down on his head. Split the guys helmet and he bit through his tongue.

Shark Bait · 10-21-2006, 14:38

Definitely the Combat Diver Qualification Course in Key West. The location and the training were both awesome. I hear they don't do crossovers anymore, though. We lost about a third of our class in the first three days due to them.
I am sure the cadre have come up with another way to weed people out.

deanwells · 10-22-2006, 23:05

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Originally Posted by Shark Bait

Definitely the Combat Diver Qualification Course in Key West. The location and the training were both awesome. I hear they don't do crossovers anymore, though. We lost about a third of our class in the first three days due to them.
I am sure the cadre have come up with another way to weed people out.

No the new thing is called forward sub-suface movements or something like that....Yep the instructors do have a few tricks even under the new MOI.
Yep CDQC is my choice as well.

**Team Sergeant** · 10-23-2006, 10:45

Military Freefall School was a rush.

Nothing beats a classroom at 26,250 feet AGL.

Also very little compares to leaping from the tailgate of a C-141 at 16,000 ft into pure blackness (a moonless night) wearing O2 and 175 lbs of "equipment".

Let's put that on Fear Factor......

TS

x SF med · 10-23-2006, 13:56

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Let's put that on Fear Factor......TS

TS - maybe we should get a team of FOGs to go on Fear Factor, I've watched it a couple of times, and I haven't seen anything that's nearly as dangerous as pissing off (then) MAJ Howard or LTC Rowe in the Q... and the foods better too!

Griv · 11-17-2006, 20:43

I completed SERE today and for someone who hasn't been to a lot of schools yet this blew me away. I loved all of the instructors and the knowledge they imparted on us all.

Hipshot · 12-09-2006, 22:37

One of the most demanding schools was the Danish Combat Swimmers Course at Kongsore Torpedo Station, Denmark. Morning PT was a 10K run followed by an hour of soccer. Timed 1K swims were a b----! Who can forget the 3K swim towing half a telephone pole (6 guys to a pole), then carrying the damn thing a click and a half over land while wearing a drysuit. The final 10K swim in 6 hours out in the North Sea (water temp was 52 degrees!) was memorable. My swim buddy had broken his big toe on a run and couldn't kick evenly; kept trying to swim in circles. The only course more physically demanding was the SF enlisted phase I program out at Camp Mackall. I lost 43 pounds in 26 days - from 190 to 147. Oh to be in that shape today!

**The Reaper** · 12-10-2006, 00:54

Hipshot:

You might want to read the stickies and work your way over to the Introductions thread and post one there.

Thanks, enjoy your visit.

TR

bluebb · 12-12-2006, 15:22

SFARTAETC
Sapper Leader Course
Q Course
M-60 machine gunners course (just because I got to carry the M-60 in the trunk of my POV)

Blue

CDRODA396 · 12-17-2006, 20:17

Not for what you might think. Both courses are awesome studies of human nature. There is nothing like watching humans interact when broken down to the barest of existence and having to perform. Its amazing what humans will do when faced with a little hunger, sleep deprivation, adverse weather and an evaluators pen! Definately worth going to both, just to watch your fellow man deal with his own "inner challanges."

I bet shrinks wet themselves when they are invited to observe either course.