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Old 08-08-2004, 23:24   #1
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The Movie....The Green Berets

Well, I'm sitting here watching the movie, The Green Berets on AMC, for the um-tenth time.

It's always good for a laugh.....not the movie itself guys, just some of the special effects. Like when Col. Kirby (The Duke) is bringing the Mike Force in and his Helo gets hit and goes down. Great Special Effects. Although I will say the the fire burn that the Crew Chief/Door Gunner does is really good.

Anyway...Knowing that he (The Duke) filmed the movie in and around Ft. Bragg, is the set for Camp A-107 still around there or was it taken down after filming?

Also another question I have is, at the begining of the film, when The Duke, aka Col. Kirby (That's such a COOL last name )brings the A-Team into VN and they're met at the "Da Nang" airfield, and Col. Morgan gets Col. Kirby over to his jeep. Col. Morgans driver is an E-2. Now knowing that when The Duke made this film, he wanted to use alot of AD SF. I always thought that you had to be at least an E-4 (promotable) even back then, to wear the Beret. Could it be, or is that just another "Hollywood" moment?

Well gotta go. The Duke and his Team are about to jump outta the Helo in broad daylight, behind enemy lines. You know the one....where he forgets to Hook up and is shuffeling to the door.....
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Old 08-09-2004, 00:30   #3
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Old 08-09-2004, 03:26   #4
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I thought the base camp scenes were filmed at Benning.
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Old 08-09-2004, 06:10   #5
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Didn't mean to offend.

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Don't be talking smack about the Duke!!!
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There was a Vietnamese village in the Gabriel demonstration area. I don't knoe if the Gabriel area even exists today.

I don't recall the driver but is it possible he was a Pfc E-3. Stripes were different then. In addition while I was in Germany we had a Pfc George Allen in the Company. He also had a CMB and had held every rank up to and including SFC. The Col once said that if he could keep George in the field he would be a sergeant major. Promotions weren't as restrictive and structured in the early sisties. In addition, I was a Pfc when I graduated in Training Group. We didn't get any promotions in Training Group higher than Pfc E-3. I think the medics may have received one stripe upon promotion. I didn't make SP4 until I had been in the 10th SFG for several months.

It was entirely possible and even probable that a Pfc would be the CO's driver. If he did well a stripe usually resulted.

Things were different. We had just returned from a Joint FCX with the British SAS. When we returned, LYT Faistenheimer was in our team room and congratulating me on a job well done. The team sergeant, MSG Valenzuela told the Col: "If you think he is that good, don't shake his hand, promote him." Within the week I was promoted to SSG.
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In addition, I was a Pfc when I graduated in Training Group. We didn't get any promotions in Training Group higher than Pfc E-3. I think the medics may have received one stripe upon promotion. I didn't make SP4 until I had been in the 10th SFG for several months.

It was entirely possible and even probable that a Pfc would be the CO's driver. If he did well a stripe usually resulted.

Things were different. We had just returned from a Joint FCX with the British SAS. When we returned, LYT Faistenheimer was in our team room and congratulating me on a job well done. The team sergeant, MSG Valenzuela told the Col: "If you think he is that good, don't shake his hand, promote him." Within the week I was promoted to SSG.
I graduated SF Tng Gp Med Class 63-7 and several in my class made SP4 upon completion of Branch. I think Medics were the only ones who could get promotions, as students, in Tng Gp because of the length of training.
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Old 03-26-2009, 14:50   #8
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Question How would you remake The Green Berets?

That is, if you had a massive budget ($150 m - $200 m).

Questions to consider.

Would you remake the movie (i.e. same characters and plot) or reboot the movie to cover another event in the history of Special Forces?

Which studio would you have back you?

How would you cast the film? If some of the most skilled actors working today (such as Sean Penn) expressed interest in doing the film your way, would you consider them?

Who would be your primary behind the camera team (producers, writer, director)?

Would you seek assistance from the Department of Defense and other interested parties (and all the strings any assistance would imply) or would you go your own way as did Clint Eastwood when he made Heartbreak Ridge. (Originally, Tom Highway was a ranger.)

To what extent would you balance your vision of the film with the "notes" provided by the suits? (They're going to back you no matter what but they'll let you know if you're in the process of making the most expensive art house movie in film history or if you're making an action packed explosive thriller that will have people lined up around the block.)

Where would you premier the film?
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Old 03-26-2009, 15:05   #9
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Class starts soon, so no time for a lengthy reply:

BUT, I'd have "Ham Chunk" leave RVN as a "boat person," emigrate to the USA, become a citizen with SF'ers (FOG's - gotta get FOG's in the movie) from the original as sponsors, enlist in US Army, become SF and lead a team in A-Stan! Just a thought...
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Old 03-26-2009, 15:10   #10
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Would you remake the movie (i.e. same characters and plot) or reboot the movie to cover another event in the history of Special Forces?
Not going to mess with the original. Maybe a fictional plot in the early days of 10th Group in eastern Europe. With the practical constraint of the current audience's limited history, I'd probably go with Afghanistan.

Edited to add: ZonieDiver is right. One way or another, it must have FOGs.

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Don't know enough about the industry to answer this one.

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How would you cast the film? If some of the most skilled actors working today (such as Sean Penn) expressed interest in doing the film your way, would you consider them?
I'd be doing it with the same intention as Wayne: as tribute to the men of the regiment. Actors' attitudes towards the project would have to match the intent. Therefore, Gary Sinise and Bruce Willis would be candidates. Sean Penn would be right out. Unless I can figure a way to write him in as a villain.

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Who would be your primary behind the camera team (producers, writer, director)?
Again, I don't know the industry enough to make these picks without research. I'd definitely have some tabbed personnel for technical advisors.

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Would you seek assistance from the Department of Defense and other interested parties (and all the strings any assistance would imply) or would you go your own way as did Clint Eastwood when he made Heartbreak Ridge. (Originally, Tom Highway was a ranger.)
I'd ask for it, and see what strings would be attached. Wayne used it for his, and Black Hawk Down would have been odd if they had been limited to civilian Hueys. With my intent as stated above, hopefully the DoD would work with me.

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To what extent would you balance your vision of the film with the "notes" provided by the suits? (They're going to back you no matter what but they'll let you know if you're in the process of making the most expensive art house movie in film history or if you're making an action packed explosive thriller that will have people lined up around the block.)
If they're going to back me, then I'll use that to do it right. Black Hawk Down and Taking Chance seem to be at opposite ends of the spectrum, but they both seem to be doing okay.

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Where would you premier the film?
Easiest question yet. Takoma WA, Fayetteville NC, Clarksville TN, and Colorado Springs. If the suits insist on LA or NYC as well, that's fine, but those towns are required.
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Old 03-26-2009, 15:24   #11
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That is, if you had a massive budget ($150 m - $200 m).

Would you remake the movie (i.e. same characters and plot) or reboot the movie to cover another event in the history of Special Forces?

Where would you premier the film?
We had our movie,, there is no way you could replicate Duke & cast..

If "The Green Berets" were re-made, it should be current players and their story..

World Premier: Gabriel Demonstration Area,, for the locals only...
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Gonzaga University 1974-75 ROTC had an MS1 Instructor; a Major - FA (Pre-Branch) who was the Commander on the Demonstration Team (He spoke Norwegian) at the begining of the movie. There was another Major at GU at the same time who was also in the movie but, he was Hawaiian. His comment was "I got fougassed in the wire." Anyone know these two great soldiers or where they are?

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Old 03-26-2009, 20:20   #13
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We had our movie,, there is no way you could replicate Duke & cast..

If "The Green Berets" were re-made, it should be current players and their story..

World Premier: Gabriel Demonstration Area,, for the locals only...
JJ is right there is NO way they could redue it. The Duke is the Duke and thats that......................

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Cool Pfc Terry Dahling, USSF 1964.

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Old 08-09-2004, 07:38   #15
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The base camp from the Green Berets" is/was at Ft. Benning. We assaulted the camp there back in 1980. It was in a regular maneuver area and was not preserved.

You can see the Airborne School Towers in several shots from the film.

There is no "Gabe Area" for demos any more. In fact, a lot of the MATA Mile over by Gruber Road has been encroached on as well. Smoke Bomb Hill is CA/PSYOP/Engineer Land now days. SWCS is the closest thing to SF in the area.

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