06-15-2004, 09:43
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Hunting the Jackal
Picked up a copy last night (Barnes and Nobles never seems to be a big fan of waiting until the actual release date to put the book on the shelves) and finished the first few chapters. Looks like it's going to be an incredible read.
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06-15-2004, 10:22
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Barnes and Noble is right up the street. I'll be picking this up around 3pm today. Thanks for the info.
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06-21-2004, 00:14
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Mine arrived about a week ago, but I don't think I can start it any time soon. Far back in the queue. 
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06-21-2004, 12:35
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It was an easy (and ubelievable) read; took only a few hours in total. Definitly one that I'll be reading more than once.
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07-14-2004, 19:22
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I just finished it yesterday. Good read. The Man is amazing.
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07-17-2004, 07:45
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Finished it today.
Great book! I actually "high-lighted" several things while reading it for my own reference. 
I did the same thing with On Killing by: LTC Dave Grossman.
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07-25-2004, 10:14
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I enjoyed it.
I would like him (if he reads this) to let us know what happend to ASJ after the Jackel was policed up.
I too, underlined a few passages. I thought that the few glimpses he gave us into his personal introspections were fascinating. He motivates me, but I do believe him to be as cold a fish as was once described in the book. But that has served him well, perhaps the quality that allowed him to serve so long and so well.
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07-26-2004, 11:58
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Just started it last night. Still in the field in Afghanistan at age 72? Wow!
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07-26-2004, 14:00
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Quote:
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Just started it last night. Still in the field in Afghanistan at age 72? Wow!
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Trust me, there are several guys I know in their 70's that you do not want to piss off.
SGM Waugh is near the top of that list.
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07-26-2004, 14:04
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Trust me, there are several guys I know in their 70's that you do not want to piss off.
SGM Waugh is near the top of that list.
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I assume that CSGM Tabata is not far behind, correct?
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07-26-2004, 14:21
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I assume that CSGM Tabata is not far behind, correct?
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You have to work really, REALLY hard to piss Ernie off.
For example, two years working together, and I was unable to do it, which is significantly longer (by about 23 months) than anyone else I have ever met.
By the way, that is CSM, or Sergeant Major, not the alphabet soup you are calling him.
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07-27-2004, 15:15
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I just finished this book. Truly amazing what he did in the coruse of his life. Makes me wnat to re-read "Codename Copperhead" by Joe Garner.
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08-02-2004, 20:30
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I just finished it today. Great book. It is a bit on the short side -- I wanted more. Great stories and some great lines in there. Definitely some good profile material.
I thought the most interesting part was his commentary on SF performance in Afghanistan, and his musings on what SOG could have done with today's technology.
What an incredible man!
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08-03-2004, 20:44
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Billy Waugh, extraordinary
I finished the Billy Waugh's book! amazing!
My favorite mission of his that he desribed was the Ba Kev operation.. it had the flavor of unconventional and spontaneous.
His musings on the end of the usefulness of "hold territory" wars were interesting, as was his thesis that had taken it upon himself to show UBL some lethal findings in K-town, 9/11 wouldn't have happened. I am not convinced of that, though it sounds good. I've been reading too much about scale-free networks in the Global Salafi Jihad today 
Also. after reading the book I was wondering how the Agency is able to generally avoid "false-flag" recruiting.
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08-22-2004, 20:07
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Re: Ernie Tabata
Ernie retired as a SGM, not a CSM. He turned down CSM on several occasions; said it was a political rank and he didn't want to be involved in anything above a B Team as it all became too political. He wanted to remain involved with the ODA's. I was the XO of B-720 under MAJ Rudy Jones when he retired as the B-720 SGM. One good MFer and one of my role models of what an SF NCO should be. Kurt Knussman took over as B Team SGM from Ernie.
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