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05-06-2010, 18:53
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Man shot at Gunsite...this is good
Man mistaken for target shot during Ariz. gun training
- May. 6, 2010 02:30 PM
The Arizona Republic
A 50-year-old man was mistaken for a target and accidentally shot during an exercise at a firearm-training facility in northern Arizona, authorities said.
The Florida man was training with three of his colleagues Sunday at the Gunsite Academy in Paulden, which is about 30 miles north of Prescott, the Yavapai County Sheriff's Office said Thursday.
The man was standing on a catwalk as his colleague fired at targets. The colleague saw the black silhouette of the man and fired, shooting the man in the abdomen, officials said.
Instructors administered first aid before he was flown to a local hospital for treatment and surgery. On Thursday, he was listed in good condition.
Trainees had been told not to shoot in the area of the catwalk. No charges were expected against the shooter.
•Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...#ixzz0nCAfzxmc
Now this is just the perfect advertisement for range safety....we should all want to take a class/course there!!! NOT! 
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05-06-2010, 19:02
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Comments withdrawn. I had this training facility confused with another.
Last edited by BrainStorm; 05-07-2010 at 03:51.
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05-07-2010, 06:40
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This isn't Range Safety. This is out right absurd. A person with the lack of sense not to shoot into the Catwalk, let alone mistake a Human for a Target. Should not be inside a Shoot House with live rounds.
Of all the crazy stuff I seen or heard in Shoot Houses. This Tops them all.
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05-07-2010, 06:49
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So they didn't file charges.............. However this guy should be dumped from that range............ Dumbest guy I've ever heard about...........
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05-07-2010, 07:04
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At least the shooter did not claim he was shooting at a deer .
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05-07-2010, 09:57
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He got him in the "5" ring...that should count for something!
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05-08-2010, 10:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kgoerz
This isn't Range Safety. This is out right absurd. A person with the lack of sense not to shoot into the Catwalk, let alone mistake a Human for a Target. Should not be inside a Shoot House with live rounds.
Of all the crazy stuff I seen or heard in Shoot Houses. This Tops them all.
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What do you want to bet the guy that got shot was standing right above a target?
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05-08-2010, 12:02
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Trainees had been told not to shoot in the area of the catwalk.
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Pretty simple instructions. Plus the catwalk is UP IN THE AIR ABOVE THE WALL!
Where did he think a miss might land?
Oh right, he obviously wasn't thinking. Bad state of mind for a fella with a loaded gun. I would like to know if he had ever had any tactical training or is just a Walter Mitty with enough money for Gunsite course. Dumbass.
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05-08-2010, 15:15
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What do you want to bet the guy that got shot was standing right above a target?
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All the more reason we don't teach the High Carry. It's not a tactical decision. It's a Shoot House Safety consideration. We don't point Weapons at people. I'm thinking this was maybe an AD or something. I just cant see someone mistaken a human for a training Target.
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05-08-2010, 17:49
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It did say the guy was from FL.... my bet it was Kyo, and he had a case of the ass... 
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05-07-2010, 12:13
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He was coming right for him!
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05-07-2010, 18:34
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I was working ER in Covington, TN (outside of Memphis) several years ago when we got a call that EMS was transporting a GSW to the head. Story was he and his buddy were out hunting one morning in different tree stands when the "buddy" mistook his friend for an owl. He shot him right between the eyes. Perfect shot at about 100 meters according to the police. DOA. Last I heard, no charges were filed. Yes, he was wearing orange.
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05-07-2010, 19:42
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mistook his friend for an owl. He shot him right between the eyes.
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He could have been prosecuted under the Migratory Bird Treaty or Eagle Protection Act. 
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05-07-2010, 20:36
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I feel like there is more to this story, who knows. Dumbass!
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05-07-2010, 20:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobob
He could have been prosecuted under the Migratory Bird Treaty or Eagle Protection Act. |
Who? Who? Who?
(sorry, couldn't help myself)
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