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06-12-2008, 00:12
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10th groupers in the late 70s, early 80s
Anyone remember a Bn Doc by the name of Tolafson? Met him at a drug rep dinner tonight, started talking, he knew I was still on active duty (no longer in SF) and eventually pried out from me my background, and fessed up to his.
Small world.
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06-12-2008, 06:36
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Tollefson was the Det Europe surgeon 79-82 or so...our wives still exchange Christmas cards...
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06-12-2008, 22:33
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Yeah, he's a general surgeon up here in the pacific NW now. He knows some of the older staff surgeons at my program here at Madigan (Ft Lewis). Nice guy, wish I had more of a chance to talk with him last night. We did share, though, that both of us learned to ski in 10th Group with mountaineering boots and crappy NATO-spec skis <g>.
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06-12-2008, 22:34
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We did share, though, that both of us learned to ski in 10th Group with mountaineering boots and crappy NATO-spec skis
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Who said he could ski...?
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06-12-2008, 22:40
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*snort* - the same chucklehead who claimed _I_ could
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06-12-2008, 22:43
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*snort* - the same chucklehead who claimed _I_ could
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Det Europe guys were funny...they would strap hang with the cool training....especially the downhill ski training...never saw them when the rucksacks came out...  (said somewhat tongue in cheek...)
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06-14-2008, 16:31
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Who said he could ski...? 
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Probably the same guys who said I could ski too...
odd how most of the C/2 ski instructors came from 1/10 - and were on the bubble team...
Send the Doc my way - SFA Ch XVI needs new members...
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06-14-2008, 20:00
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During that time frame COL Hutton was the was ARSOF(E) Cdr. Quiet the tool, as I had the opportunity to stand before him for several hours (it seemed) as he chewed my backside. He had the MPs come to my quarters and bring me to his office in what ever I wearing. LTC Lehue was his deputy and a tool also.
Did not know the Surgeon.
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01-08-2010, 00:15
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Originally Posted by RichL025
Anyone remember a Bn Doc by the name of Tolafson? Met him at a drug rep dinner tonight, started talking, he knew I was still on active duty (no longer in SF) and eventually pried out from me my background, and fessed up to his.
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I remember Tolafson..if it's the same guy...was in Toelz in the early 70s...but don't remember him being a doc....blonde haired guy ...my memory was that he was a commo guy.
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01-08-2010, 08:00
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I remember Tolafson..if it's the same guy...was in Toelz in the early 70s...but don't remember him being a doc....blonde haired guy ...my memory was that he was a commo guy.
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The doc's name was Tollefson...had a pretty, Australian wife named Margaret...retired out of Madigan as a vascular surgeon, still in the Seattle area, last I heard...my ex keeps in touch with Margaret...tall, maybe 6'2" or so...
I got to Toelz in September of 1980...was in Vicenza prior to that...
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01-08-2010, 16:57
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The doc's name was Tollefson...had a pretty, Australian wife named Margaret...retired out of Madigan as a vascular surgeon, still in the Seattle area, last I heard...my ex keeps in touch with Margaret...tall, maybe 6'2" or so...
I got to Toelz in September of 1980...was in Vicenza prior to that...
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Yes...different Tolefson....the guy i remember was a SSG when i left....had spent a short time in Signal Platoon waiting to go to a team... I was in Toelz from Jan 76 to April 80....then off to Benning's School for Boys...and girls by the time i got there.....best five years of my life in Toelz.. for sure...some great professionals...and then there some who were just "off the hook"....lol I went to Einzelkampfer Schule with ODA 4 in the winter of 76 at Altenstadt Schongau ....standing in the 20 man shower with Ivan Selides....Schoaf (both were big memorabilia freaks) They're singing Deutchland Uber Alles. One of the German Tac Officers sticks his head in (blond haired blue-eyed...looking like the poster child for the Aryan nation)...shakes his head and says, "Nazis, huh?"
Another time a special place....
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01-08-2010, 18:31
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Sidekey, the guy who went to OCS from Toelz before you was a SSG named Cantu - I didn't know him all that well, but I do remember when he got selected.
You & I were at Toelz at the same time - I arrived Jan '76, tho I left in December '79 before you.. I was commo on ODA 5, ski instructor, etc..
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01-08-2010, 19:32
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Sidekey, the guy who went to OCS from Toelz before you was a SSG named Cantu - I didn't know him all that well, but I do remember when he got selected.
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I went to jump school with Ric...his brother was SF, too, as I recall...Cantu went to Berlin after OCS (he was finishing IOBC when Richard and I started) and wound up dating the daughter of Schoenenburg or one of the other fiefdoms...last time I saw him was at Bragg around 90-91...I think he was in SOSOC...
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01-08-2010, 19:53
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Sidekey, the guy who went to OCS from Toelz before you was a SSG named Cantu - I didn't know him all that well, but I do remember when he got selected.
You & I were at Toelz at the same time - I arrived Jan '76, tho I left in December '79 before you.. I was commo on ODA 5, ski instructor, etc..
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Yes...i'm terrible with names...but now that you mention it...Cantu does ring that foggy bell in my head....good times
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01-08-2010, 21:02
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Sidekey, the guy who went to OCS from Toelz before you was a SSG named Cantu - I didn't know him all that well, but I do remember when he got selected.
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Actually - it was me - Rick Cantu was in the class before mine - Rick went summer of '78 and I left Dec '78 for Jan-Apr '79 BIOCC w/lksteve.
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