02-05-2004, 22:37
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SF Fieldcraft
How does one find north without aid of a compass?
Survive in -60 degree weather?
Start a fire with no matches?
Snare a rabbit?
Build a poncho raft?
Procure water in a survival situation?
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02-05-2004, 23:09
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Re: SF Fieldcraft
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Originally posted by AProfSoldier
How does one find north without aid of a compass?
Survive in -60 degree weather?
Start a fire with no matches?
Snare a rabbit?
Build a poncho raft?
Procure water in a survival situation?
Do you know?
We do.
The Quiet Professionals
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I have accomplished a few of these, but not in the last 30plus years.
So start with the first one, finding North w/out a compass.
Forget true north, magnetic north, etc.
Terry
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02-05-2004, 23:17
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Day or night? 
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02-05-2004, 23:17
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It's really very simple, but you must answer me a few questions.
In which hemisphere are you located?
Is it currently day or night.
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02-05-2004, 23:18
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Quote:
Originally posted by Razor
Day or night?
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Day, overcast conditions:
Southern hemisphere:
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02-05-2004, 23:23
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Quote:
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Day, overcast conditions:
Southern hemisphere:
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Is there enough ambient light to cast a shadow in your overcast southern hemisphere?
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02-05-2004, 23:23
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How about all of the following:
1. Northern hemisphere day
2. Northern hemisphere night
3. Southern hemisphere day
4. Southern hemisphere night
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02-05-2004, 23:25
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Quote:
Originally posted by AProfSoldier
Is there enough ambient light to cast a shadow in your overcast southern hemisphere?
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We'll give you shadows:
Terry
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02-05-2004, 23:26
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Quote:
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
How about all of the following:
1. Northern hemisphere day
2. Northern hemisphere night
3. Southern hemisphere day
4. Southern hemisphere night
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Works for me:
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02-05-2004, 23:33
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Northern and Southern hemisphere, "Day"
1. Place a stick into the ground at a spot where it will cast a shadow. Mark the shadow's tip with a stone, twig, or other means. This first shadow mark is always west--everywhere on earth.
2. Wait 20-30 minutes until the shadow tip moves a few inches. Mark the shadow tip's new position in the same way as the first.
3. Place your left foot on the first shadow tip. Place your right foot on the second shadow tip. You are now facing north. This is true everywhere on earth.
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02-05-2004, 23:36
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Quote:
Originally posted by AProfSoldier
3. Place your left foot on the first shadow tip. Place your right foot on the second shadow tip. You are now facing north. This is true everywhere on earth.
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Heel to the stick side, toe on the shadow tip?
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02-05-2004, 23:38
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Quote:
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Heel to the stick side, toe on the shadow tip?
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LOL, I'll have an "Attorney" version tomorrow.
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02-06-2004, 00:12
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OK, I couldn't wait. The line between the two tips is the east-west axis, with the first one being west. So your heels should be on the stick side of the axis.
What about at night?
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02-06-2004, 11:16
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You can use the moon, or stars......or a wristwatch (during the day).
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02-06-2004, 11:21
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Quote:
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You can use the moon, or stars......or a wristwatch (during the day).
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You can use the moon if you want, but I don't think you will get where you want to be.
Trust me on that one.
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