Obama DHS Purchases 2,700 Light-Armored Tanks to Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullet Sto

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This is getting a little creepy.
According to one estimate, since last year the Department of Homeland Security has stockpiled more than 1.6 billion bullets, mainly .40 caliber and 9mm.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013....c3FfxTlp.dpuf

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[steel_eel]

Is there any supported documentation behind this article, besides a potentially photoshopped photo?

[steel_eel]

Originally Posted by DocIllinois

The MRAPs, at least, are already in the field:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pS9aw5pcJo

http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1209/120906slidell.htm

Not denying their existence, but 2,700 is a very large number to be claiming without some sort of FBO announcement or other documentation.

[35NCO]

I don’t know how far I will go with the tinfoil yet. I will however write my congressman to ask simply,

1.How armed does DHS NEED to be?

2.What part of DHS's mission is allowing them to become or at least appear to be a military force?

3. What are the limits of DHS "METL"?

[mojaveman]

If true the MRAPs are probably going to be used to help secure our border with Mexico, but all of the ammunition being stockpiled kind of makes one wonder if our government knows something that we don't.

[Kyobanim]

I'll bet the people that run that site have stock in RJ Reynolds.

[Badger52]

I've seen the film somewhere online wherein some DHS personnel proudly show off one of these things. However, I've also seen a couple of the referenced links being flung around and they go to a chassis upgrade of (ta-da) about 2700 MRAPs via an Army contract to be done by Navistar.

I don't doubt Big Sis would love to have 'em for a minute, but insufficient dots for me.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by mojaveman

If true they're probably going to be used to help secure our border with Mexico.

MM, I ran your post through the Fixer-Upper Machine.

Pat

[Richard]

Y'all might consider going to an "A" vs "F" level info source and see what they have to say about it all - this might help place it in context as to who is actually doing the spending and why.

"Many cities or local governments have used UASI or DHS grant funds to purchase Bearcat armored vehicles. The small town of Keane, NH (population 23,000) purchased a Bearcat vehicle. The grant application cited protecting the town’s annual pumpkin festival for why the armored vehicle was needed."

Safety At Any Price: Assessing the Impact of Homeland Security Spending in US Cities

http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/...2-415ec85aa9b6

Tip of the Day: Buy more Alcoa stock.

And so it goes...

Richard

[PSM]

Originally Posted by Kyobanim

I'll bet the people that run that site have stock in RJ Reynolds.

I sold mine in order to buy CRDN. It seems 3M beat me to it; they bought Ceradyne last November.

Pat

[tim180a]

Originally Posted by Richard

Y'all might consider going to an "A" vs "F" level info source and see what they have to say about it all - this might help place it in context as to who is actually doing the spending and why.

"Many cities or local governments have used UASI or DHS grant funds to purchase Bearcat armored vehicles. The small town of Keane, NH (population 23,000) purchased a Bearcat vehicle. The grant application cited protecting the town’s annual pumpkin festival for why the armored vehicle was needed."

Safety At Any Price: Assessing the Impact of Homeland Security Spending in US Cities

http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/...2-415ec85aa9b6

Tip of the Day: Buy more Alcoa stock.

And so it goes...

Richard

We just got a Bearcat here in Bloomsburg, PA. It is supposed to be shared by the surrounding 7 counties.

http://pahomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=301392

Overkill? Certainly. Time to start looking into Alcoa stock...

[18C4V]

We have a Lenco bearcat paid for by UASI funding. Ours is a regional asset. I've seen one MRAP which was using our EVOC course and it's the FBI that had it.

[pcfixer]

GAO: Obama Administration has no Official Metrics to Measure Border Security
Will Not Adopt Any until Late 2013

So Why all the Armored vehicles?

However, through the lens of this metric, it was clear that U.S. borders were still highly vulnerable. At the end of Fiscal Year 2010, DHS stunningly reported it had operational control over only 13 percent of the border, or 1,107 of the 8,607 miles across U.S. northern, southwest, and coastal borders. (Id.) DHS further reported that 44 percent of the 2000-mile southwest border was under operational control. (GAO Report 113-330T, Feb. 26, 2013) When analyzing the remaining 7,500 miles of border not under operational control, GAO found that that nearly two-thirds of these border miles were "low-level monitored," meaning that the Border Patrol had some knowledge to develop a rudimentary border control strategy, but border security was vulnerable due to limited resources or inaccessibility. (GAO Report 12-688T, May 8, 2012)

http://www.fairus.org/legislative-up...ate+3-4-2013#8

I'd say interesting facts.

[kgoerz]

Originally Posted by steel_eel

Is there any supported documentation behind this article, besides a potentially photoshopped photo?

Why because its not on CNN or FOX.

[jkirkthomas]

No worries guys, this is the good ole United States, what could possibly go wrong? Armored vehicles, automatic weapons, and a billion or so rounds here and there, what's there to be concerned about?