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Old 11-14-2011, 12:52   #46
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Old 11-14-2011, 15:07   #47
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LMAO!

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Old 11-15-2011, 07:08   #48
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OWS Evictions

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NEW YORK – Police arrested 70 protesters at New York's Zuccotti Park early Tuesday, including some who chained themselves together, while clearing the park so that sanitation crews could clean it.

The officers arrived just after midnight and handed out letters to protesters ordering them to temporarily evacuate the park. Campers were told to remove their tents and all their belongings, the New York Post reported.

The eviction letters declared, "The city has determined that the continued occupation of Zuccotti Park poses an increasing health and fire safety hazard.

"We also require that you immediately leave the park on a temporary basis so it can be cleared and restored for its intended use.

"You will be allowed to return to the park in several hours, when this work is complete. If you decide to return, you will not be permitted to bring tents, sleeping bags, tarps and similar materials with you."

When loudspeakers subside there are still reports from passers-by hearing voices,

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Old 11-15-2011, 16:12   #49
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The OWS action has been uncanny in its similarity to the Tea Party gatherings, what with the rapine, public defecation, violence and filth, n'est ce pas?
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Old 11-22-2011, 23:01   #50
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Occupy Wall Street Crowd Blind to Benefits of Capitalism

I don't know about blind - but it certainly is a case of selective vision.



Occupy Wall Street Crowd Blind to Benefits of Capitalism

Like in 'Life of Brian,' protesters assume medicine, material goods will exist without the economic system that makes them possible.

By Gary WolframFriday, November 11, 2011 10:45 AM EST

http://www.mrc.org/bmi/commentary/20...apitalism.html

Whenever I watch media coverage of another Occupy Wall Street event I am reminded of an exchange between Jewish protesters in the 1979 Monte Python movie Life of Brian. One of the protesters asks another what the Romans have brought to the area and the conversation goes like this:

Question: All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

Answer: Brought peace?

Response: Oh, peace - shut up!

The point is that the Roman institutions brought a good deal to the area that was being overlooked by the protesters. The Wall Street protesters, in their hatred of capitalism, overlook things including the fact that over the last 100 years capitalism has reduced poverty more and increased life expectancy more than in the 100,000 years prior.

Every semester I ask my students: "What would you rather be? King of England in 1263 or you?" Every student would rather be themself. They enjoy using their iPhone, indoor plumbing, central heating, refrigerators and electric lighting. All of these things are available to the average person in America today and none of them were available to the aristocracy when the West operated under the feudal system.

How is it that for thousands of years mankind made very little progress in increasing the standard of living and yet today half of the goods and services you use in the next week did not exist when I was born? It wasn't that there was some change in the DNA such that we got smarter. The Greeks knew how to make a steam engine 3,000 years ago and never made one. The difference is in how we organize our economic system. The advent of market capitalism in the mid 18th century made all of the difference.

We need not just rely on historical data. Look at cross-section evidence. I try another experiment with my students. I tell them they are about to be born and they can choose whatever country in the world they would like to be born in. The only caveat is they will be the poorest person in that country. Every student picks a country that is primarily organized in a market capitalist system. No one picks a centrally planned state. No one says, "I want to be the poorest person in North Korea, Cuba, or Zimbabwe," countries which are at the bottom of the Heritage Foundation's Index of Economic Freedom.


What does it mean to be poor in our capitalist society that the Occupy Wall Street crowd so hates? Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation has several studies of those classified as poor by the U.S. Census Bureau. He found that 80 percent of poor persons in the United States in 2010 had air conditioning, nearly three quarters of them had a car or truck, nearly two-thirds had satellite or cable television, half had a personal computer and more than two-thirds had at least two rooms per person.

Contrast this with what it means to be poor in Mumbai, India, a country that is moving rapidly towards market capitalism but was burdened for decades with a socialist system. A recent story in The Economist described Dharavi, a slum in Mumbai, where for many families half of the family members must sleep on their sides in order for the entire family to squeeze into its living space.

The Occupy Wall Street movement has shown a lack of understanding of how the market capitalist system works. They appear to think that the cell phones they use, food they eat, hotels they stay in, cars they drive, gasoline that powers the cars they drive and all the myriad goods and services they consume every day would be there under a different system, perhaps in more abundance.

But there is no evidence this could be or ever has been the case. The reason is that only market capitalism solves the two major problems that face any economy-how to provide an incentive to innovate and how to solve the problem of decentralized information. The reason there is so much innovation in a market system compared to socialism or other forms of central planning is that profit provides the incentive for innovators to take the risk needed to come up with new products.

My mother never once complained that we did not have access to the latest Soviet washing machine. We never desired a new Soviet car. The socialist system relies on what Adam Smith referred to as the benevolent butcher and while there will undoubtedly be benevolent butchers out there, clearly a system that provides monetary rewards for innovators is much more dynamic and successful. The profit that the Occupy Wall Street protesters decry is the reason the world has access to clean water and anti-viral drugs.

The other major problem that must be solved by any economic system is how to deal with the fact that information is so decentralized. There is no way for a central planner to know how many hot dogs 300 million Americans are going to want at every moment in time. A central planner cannot know the relative value of resources in the production of various goods and services. Market capitalism solves that problem through the price system. If there are too few hot dogs, the price of hot dogs will rise and more hot dogs will be produced. If too many hot dogs are produced, the price of hot dogs will fall and fewer will be produced.

Market capitalism is the key to the wealth of the masses. As Ludwig von Mises wrote in his 1920 book, Socialism, only market capitalism can make the poor wealthy. Nobel Laureate Friedrich Hayek in his famous 1945 paper, The Use of Knowledge in Society, showed that only the price system in capitalism can create the spontaneous order that ensures that goods will be allocated in a way that ensures consumers determine the use of resources. The Occupy Wall Street movement would make best use of its time and energy in protesting the encroachment of the centrally planned state that led to the disaster of the Soviet Union, fascist Germany, and dictatorial North Korea.

Gary Wolfram is the William Simon Professor of Economics and Public Policy at Hillsdale College and Business & Media Institute adviser.
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Old 11-23-2011, 14:22   #51
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Interesting article. I have the same problem with my hard-core organic veggie-eating friends. They have no clue that without industrialization, they would eat whatever crossed their plates and be happy for it. There wouldn't be any well-lit clean grocery stores with an organic food section and fresh, crisp and refrigerated veggies.
Most recently all the organic veggies that have been called out for various health issues says it all.............

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Old 11-23-2011, 17:25   #52
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Also note that the ones making money are getting pissed because of the money being set aside for the do nothings.
They should have taken history courses and specifically Jamestown, VA.
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Old 12-02-2011, 22:35   #53
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Adam Carolla had a great rant about the occupiers.

*Warning*
Plenty of foul language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQpXybTnGVg
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Old 12-13-2011, 10:48   #54
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Thanks a lot to the 1%
Pays 43% of city tax


They’ve been demonized and denounced for not doing their fair share.

But a new analysis released yesterday shows that the top 1 percent of New York City’s moneymakers paid 43.2 percent of the city’s income tax — even though they accounted for just 33.8 percent of total income here.

Acting on a request from City Councilman James Oddo (R-SI), the Independent Budget Office reviewed 410,000 of the 3,462,000 tax returns filed here in 2009, the latest year available.

“Both income and tax liabilities are highly concentrated among the most affluent New Yorkers,” the IBO reported.

The findings backed up claims by Mayor Bloomberg and others who warn that the city can’t afford to lose the super-rich because they’re picking up a big chunk of the income-tax tab.

A total of 34,598 filers made it into the exclusive 1percent club with a minimum adjusted gross income of $493,439.

Then there were those in the top 10 percent who had incomes of at least $105,400 and chipped in 71.2 percent of income-tax collections, while pulling in just 58.2 percent of income generated here.

A third of the city’s filers — representing 1.18 million returns — paid no income tax at all.

Oddo said he asked for the study because many of his middle-class constituents fall into the top 10 percent category and are being unfairly attacked in the class war sparked by Occupy Wall Street.

“I’m not defending the rich. I’m defending many of my constituents,” Oddo said. “A lot of my constituents are overtaxed. Some of the rhetoric I’ve heard is wrong on its face.”

Councilman Jumaane Williams (D-Brooklyn), who was arrested during one OWS demonstration, said the debate about income distribution is bigger than a single study.

“Whenever we have a problem, we go to the middle class, the working class,’’ he said. “A person making $1 million can pay more.”
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Councilman Jumaane Williams (D-Brooklyn), who was arrested during one OWS demonstration, said the debate about income distribution is bigger than a single study.

“Whenever we have a problem, we go to the middle class, the working class,’’ he said. “A person making $1 million can pay more.”
Until folks in office see SPENDING as the larger problem and not revenue - we are doomed.
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