Deadliest warrior.

Macgregor · 05-12-2009, 21:11

For those of you that saw it, what did you think of the result of the last episode Green Berets Vs. Spetsnaz?
I personally thought the expert analysis was laughable.
http://www.spike.com/show/31082

I don't watch the show but I did tune in to the end of it because of some calls I got from friends.
The narrator and the way they do it just kind of screams airsoft to me.
That and the large amount of misinformation on the show, well I guess it is just for entertainment value.

Moving Target · 05-12-2009, 21:22

It was crap, but what would you expect from the same channel that brought us "Manswers".

I feel dumber for watching it.

uboat509 · 05-12-2009, 21:23

It couldn't have cheesier if they had tried.

SFC W

Macgregor · 05-12-2009, 21:27

I personally, am still trying to figure out why they picked the makarov over the m9.
The m9 is far from my favorite handgun but I would take it over the makarov any day.
That makarov holster was pretty neat though, is that something new?

TheLion03 · 05-12-2009, 21:29

This show was beyond ridiculous. Through the previews I thought they had a chance at making it worthwhile, but alas they did not. I noticed how the Russians and their tools mixed with spinning flip kicks into double taps seemed like SPIKE TV brought them right out of a James Bond film. I am starting to think that SPIKE is part of the Liberal news media conglomerate.

BoyScout · 05-12-2009, 21:45

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Originally Posted by Macgregor

I personally, am still trying to figure out why they picked the makarov over the m9.
The m9 is far from my favorite handgun but I would take it over the makarov any day.
That makarov holster was pretty neat though, is that something new?

They chose the makarov because the American did not kill all the targets plain and simple. Usually the show is more scientific, which ain't saying much really, but they went with gear and gadgets when skill is the factor in tests.

Pete S · 05-12-2009, 23:30

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Originally Posted by BoyScout

[....]but they went with gear and gadgets when skill is the factor in tests.

From the episodes that I've seen, the only thing they do is test weapons and equipment.
They set arbitrary rules to determine the effectiveness of weapons.
By their model, it isn't going to be possible to accurately factor in mindset or training into the scenario.

It can be a fun show to watch when they demolish pig carcasses and gel dummies.
The cheese can be overwhelming though.

I'll stick to watching Terry Schappert.

longrange1947 · 05-13-2009, 06:45

I answered this in another post but this what I had to say.

Watched it and the guy really screwed up the close in shooting and that made the Russians win overall. On NODs and moving on targets, he completely missed a target and I know that would not have happened with our guys here. The Russan got all kill shots in 17 seconds while the US got one kill and one wound in 12 seconds. The group of techno nerds decision was that the Russians were more professional, more technically proficient, with a stronger mind set. I ain't buying it and I think it was the guys just were not strong enough to give a good showing.

That and the gadgetery of the ballistic knife.

That is my 2 cents.

Sigaba · 05-13-2009, 07:16

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Originally Posted by TheLion03

I am starting to think that SPIKE is part of the Liberal news media conglomerate.

Spike TV is owned by MTV Networks. MTV Networks is owned by Viacom. Viacom owns, among other media outlets, CBS and Paramount Studios.

At one time, Spike TV was The Nashville Channel. It then became The National Channel before becoming Spike TV.

FWIW, I think it should have stayed The National Channel. The marketing services department was slow to respond to logo requests, but the programming was much better.

BoyScout · 05-13-2009, 08:46

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Originally Posted by longrange1947

I answered this in another post but this what I had to say.

Watched it and the guy really screwed up the close in shooting and that made the Russians win overall. On NODs and moving on targets, he completely missed a target and I know that would not have happened with our guys here. The Russan got all kill shots in 17 seconds while the US got one kill and one wound in 12 seconds. The group of techno nerds decision was that the Russians were more professional, more technically proficient, with a stronger mind set. I ain't buying it and I think it was the guys just were not strong enough to give a good showing.

That and the gadgetery of the ballistic knife.

That is my 2 cents.

Longrange said it better than I did Pete. The show is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me but nothing more really. The ballistic knife is a gadget, a one shot deal and if you miss, you are facing a field expedient ax (in this case) empty handed. This is an individual skill over technology case. But then those episodes are usually extremely close. Look at the Samurai vs. Viking and the Apache vs. Gladiator. I also think the choice of weapons by the experts are another factor not seen much in the show.

**Team Sergeant** · 05-13-2009, 09:04

I find it hard to believe someone actually found a "Green Beret" to do the show...... stupid tv at it's finest.

greenberetTFS · 05-13-2009, 09:07

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Originally Posted by longrange1947

I answered this in another post but this what I had to say.

Watched it and the guy really screwed up the close in shooting and that made the Russians win overall. On NODs and moving on targets, he completely missed a target and I know that would not have happened with our guys here. The Russan got all kill shots in 17 seconds while the US got one kill and one wound in 12 seconds. The group of techno nerds decision was that the Russians were more professional, more technically proficient, with a stronger mind set. I ain't buying it and I think it was the guys just were not strong enough to give a good showing.

That and the gadgetery of the ballistic knife.

That is my 2 cents.

LR1947,

Your points are very well taken.... I agree with you entirely......

GB TFS

**Bill Harsey** · 05-13-2009, 09:09

And you all just made me feel better about not watching that show.
The techno nerds have no clue...

The antihero · 05-13-2009, 11:29

I've been watching the show since the first episode and it's entartaining, but the whole premise is just too absurd. A one Vs. one fight simulated a thousend times on a laptop after testing weapons on gel mannequins doesn't really prove anything. It's fun to see the effect of those ancient weapons on the dummies but that's it.

Plus this episode was the lamest so far.

**Pete** · 05-13-2009, 11:34

I'll stick with Out of the Wild.

The girls are getting good at shooting game birds, cleaning them and getting them in the pot.