Rise of the Warrior Cop

[koz]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

You mean like sending 23 heavily armed SEALS, a half a billion dollars in classified aircraft and $500,000,000 in man hours to kill one 50 year old guy and his two 50 year old bodyguards? I guess its all relative.....

Disagree - Bin Laden was a known quantity to the entire world that was a figure head of a multi million soldier/terrorist movement. Not a petty thief or a person who ran cock-fights. Intel said that he often had an outer circle security of 400+ men.

[futureSOF]

http://m.lancasteronline.com/news/lo....html?mode=jqm

Not sure how I feel about this

[Streck-Fu]

“This does not mean that they may search every vehicle they stop,” Winters said. “They must still develop probable cause before they are permitted to search your vehicle without a warrant.”

In the Gary case, probable cause for the vehicle stop was window tint the officers believed to be illegal. Officers smelled marijuana and asked about it; Shiem then told an officer there was “weed” in the vehicle. A search ensued.

I don't think it is a good opinion to write. It will be used to justify officers fabricating 'probable cause' whenever they want to search a car. After all, there is no way verify what can or cannot be smelled on scene....

[Paslode]

An interesting blog post about SWAT Teams that builds upon John Funds National Review article The United States of SWAT?

In effect, SWAT teams manufacture, through their presence and very tactics and procedures, the circumstances that allow them, under color of authority, to kill citizens, whose only crime is often trying to respond to an unimaginable attack on their home. This is particularly horrific when the police murder innocent people or people guilty of no more than violation of minor, non-violent crimes or even bureaucratic regulations. Of course, any citizen with the presence of mind to take up a firearm to protect themselves, their family and their home against armed intruders they often do not recognize as police officers could find themselves on the receiving end of a panicky and uncontrolled barrage of gunfire.

https://statelymcdanielmanor.wordpre...ation-to-kill/

[JamesIkanov]

Having only read the initial page of posts, I just wanted to say that I found it funny as I'd already read about NASA's swat team. And while I can understand WHY they need a SWAT team, I also remember a funny story about a little old lady with some sort of "illegal" space rock who was raided by that SWAT team and had it taken from her, when she claimed it was in fact a gift. If I can find it I'll cite it.


oohhh here we go:

http://www.boston.com/news/science/a...man_74/?page=2

[Streck-Fu]

Semi-local story of Martinsville, IN getting equipment to include MRAP....LINK...with video report. Local news completely selling the "Keeping us safe..." angle. SWAT officer interviewed specifically mentions returning veterans with explosives and IED knowledge as risk that justifies having MRAP. Jump to 1:50 ....@ 2:20 states “At the end of the day, it gives the guys the ability to go home safely,” said Downing, “So, no matter what the price tag is on it, as long as they get to go home, that’s all that really matters.”... I hope the citizens of Morgan Co. are assured of their priority.

A lot of those weapons, uniforms, trucks and mine-resistant vehicles are patrolling the streets of central Indiana at virtually no cost to local law enforcement agencies.

“It saves a substantial amount of money,” said Steve Harless, deputy commissioner of the Indiana Department of Administration. “Last year alone we saved approximately $14 million and this year we’re on pace to save a little over $13 million.”

That’s millions of tax dollars saved by 326 Indiana sheriffs and police chiefs who otherwise could not afford the gear they say they need to protect the public from increasingly heavily armored criminals.

“When I first started we really didn’t have the violence that we see today,” said Sgt. Dan Downing of the Morgan County Sheriff’s Department. “The weaponry is totally different now that it was in the beginning of my career, plus, you have a lot of people who are coming out of the military that have the ability and knowledge to build IEDs and to defeat law enforcement techniques.”

As he spoke, Downing was perched in the driver’s seat of a $650,000 Mine Resistant Vehicle (MRAP) that once protected soldiers in Afghanistan from mines, rocket-propelled grenades and .50-caliber weapons.

The Morgan County SWAT Team acquired the armored vehicle for essentially the cost of gas and the time of two deputies to drive to Mississippi and pick it up and bring it back home to Martinsville.

“We were actually approached when we’d stop to get fuel by people wanting to know why we needed this…what were we going to use it for? ‘Are you coming to take our guns away?’” said Downing. “To come and take away their firearms…that absolutely is not the reason why we go this vehicle. We got this vehicle because of the need and because of increased violence that we have been facing over the last few years.

The school shooting was one teen boy shooting another teen boy outside the school door and then running away. LINK ....I don't think the MRAP would have helped.
Despite the claims, Martinsville is a very small town with no real violence issues.

I could see Indianapolis SWAT having one because there are lot more issues with shootings downtown but they have not seen the need to pursue one. Personally, I think Martinsville took this as an ego booster.

Well guys, I thought that it never happen to my county and my old department, but it did.

Just last week they picked up their new Urban Assault Vehicle. No it doesn't look like the one in "Stripes" either. They are now proud owners of an MRAP.

It gets, according to them 2-3 MPG. My first response, after all of the YOUUUHHOOOssss, was this: "Last time I checked, there weren't any landmine problems around. The response I got back was: "Yet, is the operative word."

Here is our facebook page and on it you can see the old SWAT vehicle:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Summit...40107089380317

[Sdiver]

... and the hits just keep on coming.

Although this incident happened almost two years ago, and the S.O. DID admit blame, it just goes to show why the public is becoming less and less trusting of LEOs.

SWAT team ambushes innnocent man as he works on tractor in his driveway

COUNCIL BLUFFS, IA — A man says that while he was working on his tractor in his driveway, a van pulled up and a dozen men with rifles piled out and assaulted him. As they bashed his head in, breaking bones in his face, he believed they were there to kill him. It was later determined that police had attacked a completely innocent man due to a false police report, drawing questions about why police acted so brutally against a man who did not resist and made no threats.

The violence befell upon John Hytrek one day in August 2012 while he was working on a tractor at his shop. Without warning, Mr. Hytrek heard a van screeching up to his shop. When he looked up, roughly 12 men were sprinting towards him with their rifles drawn.

“They ran for me with machine guns,” recalled Mr. Hytrek to KMTV. “And I looked at them, and I’m like, what!?”

Hytrek was completely blindsided and had no idea what was going on. The trespassers tackled him to the ground, driving his face into a piece of steel equipment. Hytrek then says he was struck in the head multiple times.

“Five times,” said Hytrek to the local news station. “I think it was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.” He demonstrated the blows coming from multiple directions.

He was struck so hard that assailants actually shattered the lenses in his glasses.

“I was minding my own business, you know, and they came in for the kill,” Hytrek said.

It was evident at this point that the violent group was employed by the government. These well-armed, highly aggressive men were deputies from the Pottawattamie County Sheriff’s Office.

Hytrek says he did nothing to resist. That did not stop him from becoming a bloody, mangled mess.

“They repeatedly were swinging to kill me, they repeatedly didn’t let up, I did not resist them, nothing,” Hytrek explained. “They could’ve came up to me and asked me what was going on, and they didn’t.”

Hytrek says that a police sniper was perched in the distance during the ambush.

The deputies shackled him and took him to jail. He was charged with assault and harassment; serious charges against a man who had done nothing wrong.

Innocent Misunderstanding?

Hytrek, 52, suffers from Parkinson’s Disease and was badly injured by the assault; so much so that he had to be hospitalized at least twice. He suffered a broken orbital bone in his face, a concussion, and multiple abrasions and bruises.

Police tried to justify their use of force against Hytrek because he was working with a hammer when they ambushed him. But even a deputy’s deposition stated that Hytrek never attempted to use it as a weapon, KMTV reported.

“They could’ve came up to me and asked me what was going on, and they didn’t.”

It took 3 months for the government to finally drop the bogus charges against Mr. Hytrek. A cell phone video allegedly backed up Hytrek’s account that he did not resist.

In fact, it was finally admitted that he did absolutely nothing wrong. He had been the victim of “swatting” — a nefarious tactic in which a person generates a false police report in hopes that the government will go after someone else. And in Police State USA, the government responses can be quite brutal.

It turned out that one of Hytrek’s relatives had retaliated against him for previously requesting that person leave his property. That person, who had previously made false police reports, told police that Hytrek had made “terroristic threats,” according to KMTV.

Hytrek is now filing a federal civil rights lawsuit against the brutal Pottawattamie County Sheriff’s Office.

It does not bode well when the government can’t perform a simple investigation without beating people up before they have acquired any facts whatsoever.

http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/john-hytrek/

[The Reaper]

Playing flash bang the baby. Damn.

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/05/...g-police-raid/

Toddler Critically Injured During Police Raid

May 30, 2014 8:22 AM

(WAOK) Atlanta – A 19-month-old toddler was critically injured after a police flash bang was tossed into his bed during a police raid at a Habersham County home on Wednesday.

“It’s my baby. He’s my only baby. He didn’t deserve any of this,” said Alecia Phonesavanh, the mother of the child.

(Cont. at link)


Why don't they just pull these people over with a patrol unit next time they leave the house?

Just because we have a Tac Team, we need to employ them?

TR

[Javadrinker]

police state of America

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Playing flash bang the baby. Damn.

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/05/...g-police-raid/

Toddler Critically Injured During Police Raid

May 30, 2014 8:22 AM

(WAOK) Atlanta – A 19-month-old toddler was critically injured after a police flash bang was tossed into his bed during a police raid at a Habersham County home on Wednesday.

“It’s my baby. He’s my only baby. He didn’t deserve any of this,” said Alecia Phonesavanh, the mother of the child.

(Cont. at link)


Why don't they just pull these people over with a patrol unit next time they leave the house?

Just because we have a Tac Team, we need to employ them?

TR

I was getting ready to post this one and saw yours.


THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED! This exactly how LAPD killed an infant years ago. Landed in the crib. Procedures were changed because of this. Evidently, nobody had any clue to these changes in procedure and the team lacked in common sense, period. Somebody is going to be America's next millionaire guaranteed.

[Box]

Its neat that the family will be able to sue the Atlanta taxpayers while these halfassed cops walk with no repercussions whatsoever.

jackassess

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

No matter how much money the family gets the kid may be messed up from life from the burns. Hopefully not but no amount of money is worth a lifetime of being screwed up.

And the guy who did it to him might receive a reprimand and possibly some retraining.

The people who signed off on this raid should be fired as well.

TR

[atticus finch]

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

Its neat that the family will be able to sue the Atlanta taxpayers while these halfassed cops walk with no repercussions whatsoever.

jackassess

It is pathetic, these lawsuits do nothing to solve the problem or provide a deterrent.

[Streck-Fu]

Lee County, Florida (Ft. Myers and Cape Coral) where I grew up....

"We basically run this unit like special operations, Special Forces....."


Be sure to notice the handgun handling at 1:25....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3NTqX9qJAc