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Old 01-11-2014, 19:33   #62
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Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
...he always went for positive reinforcement than negative.
Well, they need to go hand-in-hand. It's not negative reinforcement, it's punishment from "god" for not following the voice command. "No" should come before the zap and the zap only if he doesn't respond to the command. Reward only comes when they respond correctly to the voice command, not the zap.

You are not looking to inflect pain, per se, it's to redirect attention to the pack leader behind the voice or "bark".

E-collars, clickers, and voice are only tools in training, not training in and of themselves. Like most tools, they all take practice to use correctly. I've zapped him when I only meant to recall him with the pager and I've turned the transmitter off when I meant to zap him. Mistakes like that are detrimental to training, but I've learned (my wife put an e-collar on me!).

ETA: Maybe this should have been a separate thread.

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