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Old 10-13-2015, 02:51   #10
SpNkid
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Location: Kiev, Ukraine.
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My Opinion:
It is exactly Civil war in Ukraine between Ukrainians supported by Russia and West from different sides.
It is interesting question what side deserves "Freedom fighters" name in this war.

Russians and Ukrainians are one people. Ukrainian (as nationality) - a term coined by artificially in Austria-Hungary at the turn of 19-20 centuries. Prior to that, the inhabitants of border areas was called "Ukrainians", regardless of their nationality. Such "ukrainians" was in Pskov region or in Serbska Kraina for example. Krai (Край) = edge or border.

Until what time so called Ukrainians call themselves Russian people, how do you think?
Since 1893 in the United States published emigre newspaper "Freedom" of pro-Ukrainian orientation. It is still publishing, and on the official website of the newspaper hanging archive all its issues. I followed, when the newspaper was first started writing about the Ukrainian people and found exactly the issue where the word "Russian people", previously called themselves Ukrainians, suddenly changed to "Ukrainian people". Want to know what date it was?

Here is the first edition of "Freedom" for the September 15, 1893. Yes, under the headline is Shevchenko quote. But even following inscription: "Chasopis (chronicle) for ruska people unto americium." Russian, not Ukrainian.

Let's see another issue for the same year. Similarly. For the Russian people. Even language bears little resemblance to the Ukrainian, but rather it is the Little Russian dialect of ancient. If one of you do not believe me, you do get into that newspaper "Freedom" official website, there a lot of these issues, it's not a fake. Every year, out of 50, and then more and more issues. And nowhere in the issues of the 19th century there is no mention of the Ukrainians. They call themselves Russian people.
And now the issue of the 20th century, with the January 4th, 1900. "For ruska people", "Ruska People's Union". They themselves are called.
Look for the issue in January 1910. Then they say "Ruthenian People's Union of americium." Well, OK. "Ruthenian", "Ruska", but in any case not Ukrainian.
And here it is, the latest release, which refers to the Russian people. For the 13th October 1914. However, modestly referred to "RN" (Narod (народ) = people). But in the upper right corner you can read the "Russian People's Union".
And in the next issue, 15 th October 1914, the abbreviation "RN" has changed to "U.N.". And next to it is written in English is not "R", and "UKR". And in the top right corner of the already written "Ukrainian People's Union":
After this there is no mention "Russian" or "Ruthenian people." Here's another number, the last in 1914, in this and all subsequent issues they write about Ukrainians.
From all this we can conclude that the Ukrainians were not 140 thousand years ago, but exactly 100 years ago, in 1914. Until 1914, even they called themselves Russian people.


Ukraine and Syria both are just different parts of a large fence wich US mounting between Western Europe and Russia to interfere integration of russian resources with european money and technologies.
It is STRATFOR founder and chairman George Friedman said that the development of a German-Russian alliance most threatening to America's position of the world's lone superpower.
Two World wars were started in fact to prevent this alliance.
Ukraine - one of main historical transit locations on Berlin - Moscow line. As military route, as gas pipeline route, or simply as land route.
In order to reliably block the Russian ground routes to Europe, you need only two hostile to Russia countries: Poland and Ukraine. Poland you already have. Ukraine in the transformation process.
Syria was practically the only potentially safe place to mount an alternative pipelines from Persian Gulf through Jordan to Turkey and further to Europe. We all know why Iraq and Iran are not suitable for this.
When the agreement failed, Assad suddenly became a bloody tyrant.
Russian activity in Syria and Russian activity in Ukraine are not a distraction to each other but just two russian hands in different places. Both hands defends russian interests at the same time.

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