CIA secretly monitored intelligence committee
 

CIA secretly monitored intelligence committee

Who watches the watchers.... I know this is from the Guardian, but appears not to be covered by the MSM. If true, this sounds like NSA, not CIA, and could start a constitutional dilemma / crisis .

Imagine the potential ---"Here is the list of questions the committee will ask you today sir (with our researched answers), Note that we have to clean up this area, discredit this source, and by the way.. it looks like JONES is providing the oversight committee with information... we should have a talk with him about his job prospects if he lost his clearance" :eek:

SnT

Obama knew CIA secretly monitored intelligence committee

A leading US senator has said that President Obama knew of an “unprecedented action” taken by the CIA against the Senate intelligence committee,
The subtle reference in a Tuesday letter from Senator Mark Udall to Obama..... threatens to plunge the White House into a battle between the agency and its Senate overseers.

the CIA had secretly monitored computers used by committee staffers preparing the inquiry report, which is said to be scathing not only about the brutality and ineffectiveness of the agency’s interrogation techniques but deception by the CIA to Congress and policymakers about it.

Independent observers were unaware of a precedent for the CIA spying on the congressional committees.... “In the worst case, it would be a subversion of independent oversight, and a violation of separation of powers,”

the prospect of the agency spying on its Senate overseers who prepared their own inquiry potentially places the agency right back into the legal morass it has labored for years to avoid.

the CIA confirmed.... that it is subject to the Federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, which makes it a crime to access government computer networks without authorization

“If, as alleged in the media, CIA accessed without permission or authority a computer network dedicated for use by a Senate committee, it would be an extremely serious matter. Such activity, if it occurred as alleged, would impede Congress’ ability to carry out its constitutional oversight responsibilities and could violate federal law,”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...mittee-torture

Okay what makes this any difference from Watergate? I mean it is tapping, computers here and not telephones or rooms, etc.

MtnGoat,

It is like watergate, but no one has the balls to threaten impeachment on Obama.....:mad:

SnT

I know it is, but I don't think the reason is because members are ball less. I if so many members on both side are tied into "things." If everyone is living in glass houses who's going to throw the first rock kind of thing.

The difference
 

The difference is Nixon was a Republican and Obama is a Democrat.

Since that is the case the MSM says "No harm, no foul" move on and the low information voters flip back to American Idol - or that new cooking show.

Okay then why aren't the Republicans cry foul? I get what you are saying, but not much reported on this.

I think you have it backwards. If it's from the Guardian it's true, MSM not true. The Guardian are the people running Snowden. This is from the Snowden leaks. But you are right. I can't believe that this isn't a bigger story.
The US government has always been a direct reflection of our society at the time. Right now most Americans just don't give a shit. We get the government we deserve.

The GOP-e
 

The GOP-e still wants to do lunch with the Prez, Harry R and his posse.

I don't see any benefit for any of them other than a personal gain, or kicking the cans down the road. So why would they want to spend time with the people who are responsible for demonizing them on such a consistent basis?

You're totally correct on are politicians are a reflection of current society, which is early soup sandwich.

When I read an article on the same subject, it read to me as something we all expect in our jobs of proper use of automation and handling of sensitive material.

You click yes to consent in monitoring when you log into AKO. You consent to it when you sign your AUP. Even on your home PC.

I read this as the Agency was practicing their own review processes to monitor traffic and use of removable media, print jobs, etc.

I wouldn't say this is spying on them, I'd say that the staffers should get what they deserve for wrongfully removing info not cleared for the purposes. The staffers are doing bidding by someone seeking power and dirt. This is political posturing to remove themselves and establish cases against politicians who sanctioned the programs (successful or not) as we near mid-terms and the inevitable shitstorm that will ensue for 2016.

House Committee members for Intelligence and Budgets associated will be rolled out for failure to toe the party line.

On the surface it looks like another "domestic spying case". To me it looks like people are getting cleaning supplies on hand to wipe the house, hands and staff clean of any associations.

From the NYT article
 

that Richard posted.
Now we're into the YGBSM realm. Can successfully kicked down road.

1. Get caught.
2. Express outrage.
3. Launch inquiry.
4. Grab latte' and put out more staff PR guidance indicating the new topic they don't have to answer questions about because it's "under investigation."

Rinse, repeat PRN.
Plus ca change...
:rolleyes:

Update
 

Update: Sen. Feinstein, Intel committee chair, made an extended speech this morning on the floor (while I laughed over my breakfast) about how outraged she was at the 180° view of this that is being perpetuated by the media against the committee and her staff, and furious at the CIA on a number of fronts. Gosh, gee-willickers - she was really pissed.*

Counter-Outrage expressed: check.



* Breakfast was just fine, thanks - I was listening, not watching.

Someone should just give her one of those little pills for women that cure bitchy.