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Team Sergeant 11-09-2018 11:22

Ian David Long, COWARD, LOSER, Murderer
 
Ian David Long, COWARD, LOSER, Murderer.

Ian David Long a prime example of how cowards/losers deal with conflict.

PTSD, bullshit. Let me tell you a PTSD secret, it does not make people commit criminal acts, they alone are responsible for their actions.

Another mass murderer, coward and loser that should be erased from history.

TS

Combat Diver 11-09-2018 12:00

Totally agree TS and now more screams for gun control which won't have stopped him.

CD

mojaveman 11-09-2018 12:08

Same here, you really wonder sometimes how many of these so called PTSD sufferers didn't have psychological issues before they enlisted. Maybe the military still needs to do a better job of screening potential recruits before they are trained to kill.

Old Dog New Trick 11-09-2018 12:46

Yes but, I find the cowardly actions and inaction of California’s elected officials to be complicit with this loser and just as responsible and guilty for the murder of these innocent victims.

Ten (reportedly) off duty police officers at the Borderline B&G enjoying themselves and at least three “security guards” and not one of them was armed or had access to a firearm during the three-minute attack because of California’s draconian gun laws. And Governor Elect Gavin Newsom says he’s just fine with that. If only they had another law this scumbag could break before committing murder...



ETA: P.S. and I’m sick and tired of hearing how “STRONG” people and communities can be ‘AFTER’ a significant event has changed their lives. That’s what F-ing WEAK minded people do to comfort their silly little egotistical feelings. How about being strong enough to challenge stupid people when they spout off with “common sense gun control” and “let’s pass another law the first 100 didn’t work,” and ask themselves ‘WHY DO WE CALL THE POLICE WHEN SOMEONE STARTS SHOOTING AT US?” Because they have GUNS that’s why!

Mustang Man 11-09-2018 13:52

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ETA: P.S. and I’m sick and tired of hearing how “STRONG” people and communities can be ‘AFTER’ a significant event has changed their lives. That’s what F-ing WEAK minded people do to comfort their silly little egotistical feelings.
100% spot on, I honestly never that of it like that but makes total sense. It's a trend I see with cities and schools. We are " New York Strong," "Boston Strong," and "(insert university) Strong" Makes sense since these kinds of places are filled with massive egos and feelings.

rubberneck 11-09-2018 15:35

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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick (Post 647349)
Yes but, I find the cowardly actions and inaction of California’s elected officials to be complicit with this loser and just as responsible and guilty for the murder of these innocent victims.

Ten (reportedly) off duty police officers at the Borderline B&G enjoying themselves and at least three “security guards” and not one of them was armed or had access to a firearm during the three-minute attack because of California’s draconian gun laws. And Governor Elect Gavin Newsom says he’s just fine with that. If only they had another law this scumbag could break before committing murder...



ETA: P.S. and I’m sick and tired of hearing how “STRONG” people and communities can be ‘AFTER’ a significant event has changed their lives. That’s what F-ing WEAK minded people do to comfort their silly little egotistical feelings. How about being strong enough to challenge stupid people when they spout off with “common sense gun control” and “let’s pass another law the first 100 didn’t work,” and ask themselves ‘WHY DO WE CALL THE POLICE WHEN SOMEONE STARTS SHOOTING AT US?” Because they have GUNS that’s why!

California is proof positive that anti gunners are full of horse manure when they say that all they want are common sense gun laws. They have all the “common sense” guns laws any state could have and yet people still die in scores by gun violence in that state every year.

tom kelly 11-09-2018 16:47

CRIME - WAR- POLITICS
 
LAWS DO NOT STOP CRIMINALS FROM COMMITTING MURDER OR ANY OTHER VIOLENT CRIME....THEY HAVE TO BE STOPPED BY YOUR RESPONSE TO THEIR CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR....I DON'T MEAN HARSH WORDS OR POINTING A FINGER AND SAYING STOP...THE USE OF FORCE IS WHAT IT USUALLY TAKES TO NEUTRALIZE VIOLENT CRIMINAL ACTS.

Old Dog New Trick 11-10-2018 12:49

Good news coming out of Thousand Oaks California. People are finally being converted to the light side. In scores people ‘citizens’ are flocking to gun stores to purchase weapons for self-defense and personal protection. Tired of hearing the same old same old from politicians and elected officials that no guns are the only solution...die hard liberals are accepting the reality that if someone (off-duty LE) had had a gun or the “security guards at the club” had been armed fewer people if anyone would have been killed.

Maybe we have reached the breaking point and honest hard working people of all faiths, politics, backgrounds, races and genders are seeing the Democratic policies of disarmament and capitulation to the sick and mentally ill have not been successful in reducing crime and murder in America. The first and last place on earth where someone actually wrote that self-defense is a personal and human right guaranteed by the Constitution.

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

At the only gun shop in Thousand Oaks, fearful residents decide it's time to buy a gun

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ns/1947476002/

Team Sergeant 11-10-2018 13:24

President Trump, pass this law
 
Shortly after 9/11 the "president" passed a law that any-all Barney Fife's (Active and retired) in the United States can carry concealed in all 57 states. Has not made a bit of difference.

Then again leo's are taught defensive tactics.

President Trump, how about passing a law that allows all E-7 and above, O-3 (Active and retired) and above Special Forces and Navy SEALS to carry concealed "anywhere" in the United States. This includes civilian aircraft, nuclear facilities, all federal buildings etc etc etc.

And before you say "whoa, wait" we already do that when we are wearing uniforms........... taking off our uniforms does not make us criminals as fat janet napolitano and her "civilian homeland security" would otherwise think.


Imagine a highschool/college shooting and the leo's are waiting for backup or as in Florida, running away.


Barney Fife's are not the answer, folks that have the real skills might make a difference.


Remember Columbine High School where it took Barney Fife's "HOURS" to make entry. Imagine one active/retired/former, armed Green Beret or Navy SEAL on scene stating to the leo's "I'm going in, now".

Yeah, Imagine.............


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