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The Reaper 10-27-2016 20:19

Survival During the Coming Election
 
I think at this point, it would be prudent for all of us to consider stocking up in anticipation of civil unrest following the elections.

A few week’s supply of non-perishable food is not too much to be considering adding to the larder, at this point.

My area was recently hit with the pipeline gasoline disruption, followed by the hurricane and the associated flooding. 75% of the local roads and streets were blocked. Trees were down all around. We lost power for five days, internet, cable, and phone for six. Our generator put us in good stead, and the LP fuel kept us from having to constantly refill gasoline cans from the few stations that were open and had gas. We were able to use antennas to receive some TV stations, but the lack of internet access was inconvenient. Even our cell phones did not work. Fortunately, a few back streets were open and were passable to get to the stores, once they reopened, for the few items we wanted. It was a good shakedown for future outages and disasters.

In the next few weeks, I could see domestic unrest filling streets with people unhappy with the outcome of the election, and possible temporary disruption of the transportation network. This could render deliveries of food, fuel, etc. difficult, if not impossible.

Furthermore, the election of Hitlery could result in yet another run on firearms, magazines, and ammunition, to include reloading supplies. She has made her thoughts pertaining to firearms perfectly clear, for anyone who wants to know where she stands.

This would include modern sporting rifles and semi auto pistols, receivers (complete and 80%), military surplus / imported firearms, magazines, ammunition, powder, primers, etc.

The current supply is adequate, but prices have already begun creeping up in anticipation of future political concerns.

Given the pattern of previous gun ban threats, threatened commodities would almost immediately severely escalate in price, then spread to other associated items, potentially even before any legislation is proposed. Shortages (which spawn additional panic buying) could clear the shelves in quick order. This is how you have a .22 rimfire shortage that continues even three years after it started, despite the plants running at full-capacity.

I suggest that anyone who has not acquired all of the tools they need to defend themselves (even if a renewal of the Assault Weapons Ban were to occur, or an Executive Order to that effect) immediately procure the potentially future banned or restricted items that they require. At the very least, I suspect that once Hitlery is inaugurated, we could quickly see all firearms transfers require a 4473 and Federal approval. While that may seem relatively innocuous, it is the beginning of Federal Registration of all firearms (like the NFA Registry), allowing those who would abuse the 2nd Amendment to have the ability to attempt confiscation of selected classes of firearms, like the other former free republics who gave up their rights, and eventually, their guns. She will also appoint the Federal judges and SCOTUS Justices to provide legal cover for that portion of her extreme leftist agenda.

I would try and order before the weekend comes, if I had shortfalls and the cash available, but absolutely before the election.

If you have money left over, consider sending a donation to the NRA, GOA, or Trump Campaign.

And then don’t forget to go and vote against Hitlery.

God Bless America!

TR

Sdiver 10-27-2016 21:22

Sir, once again, very wise words of advice to follow.

Thank you.

Old Dog New Trick 10-27-2016 22:22

Still have a few items to pick up and I'm planning to pack some family go bags if relocation is necessary.

All above info from TR is good planning and I too feel that civil unrest is in our future regardless of who is elected. The assault on the 2A will or will not begin until January 22 so maybe this will be an all American Christmas; or the last supper.

I'm not much of a worry wart but the temperament of this election and the candidates have both run rhetoric to the boiling point. Something is going to blow up and we should all be prepared for the fallout.

TOMAHAWK9521 10-27-2016 22:47

Well, I'm potentially screwed. I'm sitting over here in Trashcanistan working for the teams and won't be home until mid-winter or early spring. I had to use up just about everything before I shipped over here since the fridge in my place crapped the bed. Guess I'll have to resort to walking over to the South Fork of the Snake and slaughtering lots of rainbow trout. Pretty convenient since there's no limit on them. Not so convenient since I'll be freezing my ass off in the process.

sfshooter 10-27-2016 23:58

Great advice TR! I have felt, and I think others of my deplorable ilk have felt that things are coming to a boiling point. I am already doing what I can with my limited funding. I think everyone who is a member here should heed this advice. If things halfway work out through this election then no one is worse off for having made a little prep work.

VVVV 10-28-2016 00:10

I have over a hundred bottles of bourbon in my bunker, so what more could a fella need? :D

Box 10-28-2016 04:34

an additional thought...
...a good lever action rifle if you dont have one

the original high capacity assault rifle and they can be bought in pistol calibers. A good Marlin lever action in 44 mag can do a lot and is affordable when the price gouging of "semiautomaticassualtweapons" begins.
When 30 round magazines start to become scarce and overpriced, a good 30-30 or 44 mag lever action carbine can pul double duty as a home defender and a good 'dear gun'...
...like as in "oh dear, that guy tried to force his way into the house"

TJ11B 10-28-2016 07:23

Thank you Sir, WILCO.

Mustang Man 10-28-2016 08:07

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Armed deplorable reporting in, stocking up on ammo as we speak. This weekend I'll finally be able to properly balance and mount my Leupold.

bblhead672 10-28-2016 08:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang Man (Post 618582)
Armed deplorable reporting in, stocking up on ammo as we speak. This weekend I'll finally be able to properly balance and mount my Leupold.

Sir, that firearm disturbs me while I sit in my safe place so you must turn it in. Please ship it to my new company "Deplorable Firearms Disposal Inc" in Texas!

Team Sergeant 10-28-2016 10:01

Survival During the Coming Election
 
Survival During the Coming Election

As always, great advice!

Will update "natural" disaster plans. Load more mags and redistribute ammo.......;)

Make sure your gas tanks are full/topped off on the 7-8th Nov.

(Mustang Man, get that scope mounted ASAP!)

cbtengr 10-28-2016 13:46

A great thread with a lot of good advice. It totally sucks though that this is what we now anticipate happening here in the United States of America following an election. The last time I moved a friend of mine and his wife helped with the move, his wife ended up carrying a lot of my cased firearms into my new home. She later remarked to my friend as to why I would have all those firearms and ammunition. I told him it was for when the SHTF and when that happens he is welcome to come to my home but his liberal wife was not. God help us all!

TWITCHY 10-28-2016 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach (Post 618573)
an additional thought...
...a good lever action rifle if you dont have one

the original high capacity assault rifle and they can be bought in pistol calibers. A good Marlin lever action in 44 mag can do a lot and is affordable when the price gouging of "semiautomaticassualtweapons" begins.
When 30 round magazines start to become scarce and overpriced, a good 30-30 or 44 mag lever action carbine can pul double duty as a home defender and a good 'dear gun'...
...like as in "oh dear, that guy tried to force his way into the house"

Sir, besides the Marlin, what are other "good" options for a lever action?

Box 10-28-2016 14:45

There are several on the market. I have owned a Marlin 1894 in .44 magnum and a 336 in 30-30. I love them both. My Grand-Dad had a Winchester that he shot deer with.
Others build lever action rifles, but I don't have experience with anything but Marlin and Winchester.

TWITCHY 10-28-2016 15:43

Thank you, very much, I will see what I can afford.

The Reaper 10-28-2016 18:28

Marlin was bought by the consortium that owns Remington, and there was subsequently a lot of incompetence, if not actual sabotage in the production line.

If I were looking for a Marlin lever action rifle, it would have to be an older model or one that a gunsmith inspected and approved of.

Alternates would include Browning, Winchester, Rossi, Savage, etc. The Winchester 92 and 94 in .357 have been a bit fragile and problematic. Good carbine calibers are the .357 and .44 Magnums, and the .45 Colt. The Magnums will generally come close to delivering the performance people expect from their revolvers in those calibers. Handloaders can create some powerful rounds from those pistol cartridges that are safe for the rifle. Good rifle calibers include the .30-30, the .45-70, and any other flat or round bullet shape, as the tubular magazine will not safely allow you to load with pointed or spitzer bullets. The lever exceptions are the Winchester 1895 and Savage 99, which have a box magazines and can handle a variety of higher-performance pointed rifle rounds.

Completely agree with getting the car ready and filling all vehicle fuel tanks.

I tend to stay up on most election nights watching the returns, that might not be a bad idea for other reasons this time.

I will probably check out the first aid and trauma kits, too, just in case. I just checked the fire extinguishers and changed the smoke detector batteries last week.

TR

Constant 10-28-2016 18:47

Geeze, is it really that bad? I'm over here in the Far East right now so I don't get a real "temperature" reading of the United States. My folks aren't good information sources as they are out of the "lines of drift" if anything bad happens in the cities.

The news is so biased it just gets headline type stories so I don't read into them. From your on the ground report, in your area, is it, honest to God (or self if so inclined), that worrisome?

There isn't much I can think of that I can do here where I'm at. I have a supply of food, water, fuel, etc for natural disasters. However, if things were to collapse like the Soviet Union did, my family and I will be in a world of hurt over here. All preps, supplies, weapons, ammo, etc are back home in the states.

Thoughts/advice if you were in my shoes with the limited information I gave you. My parents are pretty self sufficient and very open to receiving supplies.

My gut says my family and I are okay, but is that complacency bias setting in?

The Reaper 10-28-2016 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Constant (Post 618643)
Geeze, is it really that bad? I'm over here in the Far East right now so I don't get a real "temperature" reading of the United States. My folks aren't good information sources as they are out of the "lines of drift" if anything bad happens in the cities.

The news is so biased it just gets headline type stories so I don't read into them. From your on the ground report, in your area, is it, honest to God (or self if so inclined), that worrisome?

There isn't much I can think of that I can do here where I'm at. I have a supply of food, water, fuel, etc for natural disasters. However, if things were to collapse like the Soviet Union did, my family and I will be in a world of hurt over here. All preps, supplies, weapons, ammo, etc are back home in the states.

Thoughts/advice if you were in my shoes with the limited information I gave you. My parents are pretty self sufficient and very open to receiving supplies.

My gut says my family and I are okay, but is that complacency bias setting in?

I think the odds are low for such an occurrence, but the potential cost of such an incident is high. Tempers are running short, and expectations are mounting. Rumors of voter fraud are rampant and growing. The logical progression is for trouble to start in the larger cities and spread to the smaller ones, but as Ferguson proved, that is not always the case. Anywhere you have large groups of college students, anarchists, socialists, the unemployed, the poor, minorities, the disenfranchised, the hopeless, etc., you can easily use a few agitators to create a problem. Did you watch the Arab Spring? Are things better in those countries now than they were before? Are the movements we supported more pro-American than they were before? If you can find a copy, a book entitled "Unintended Consequences" would be a good primer to see how we got where we are with regards to the 2nd Amendment, and how a crisis could come about from a political problem.

I believe in being prepared, and there is little cost in buying a few extra cans of food, topping off the fuel tanks, or picking up some spare mags. Hell, even a spare rifle and pistol or two. If you don't need them right now, just store them away till you do. I value our preparedness over a shiny new car, an expensive watch, or an expensive vacation.

I live in a nice quiet neighborhood, but there is potential for unrest just a few miles away. I believe that being prepared to deal with contingencies is my responsibility to my family.

Among many threats, our entire nation is greatly at risk from disruption of the electrical grid. Whether caused by solar events, hacking of the grid, or an actual EMP attack, the loss of electrical power across a large portion of this country for more than a few days will cause a horrific end to this once great country. Our government knows that, but has done very little to prepare for it. It is almost like they are hoping for it. If you have not read it already, I suggest you take a look at "One Second After", by Forstchen.

Personally, I believe that civilization is on a gradual downward spiral. It may slow or even stop temporarily, but in the long-term, the trend is down.

I have seen America when it was great, but the lunatics have taken over the asylum now. PC is rampant. Good people fear speaking the truth. Men playing children's games are worshiped as heroes, and their opinions are considered Gospel. Actors and "musicians" are political experts. Religious beliefs (even those that wish to destroy us) are sacrosanct, except for Christians, who founded this country. And the media has completely abrogated their role and has clearly chosen sides in this. What really worries me is what kind of world will my kids and grand-kids grow up in?

We have largely lost the spirit that founded this country, and now have too many takers and not enough makers. Resources are being depleted. Manufacturing here is on life support. Socialism is making a strong comeback. Morals are low, there is no shame, and thugs are worshiped as heroes. And most Americans today value their security over their freedom.

Just my .02, YMMV.

TR

Old Dog New Trick 10-28-2016 19:58

^^^^I agree, it will not take much to push some folks past the edge of complacency and into active insurgency. Even if local at first it will spread globally as the national identity is reset.

mojaveman 10-28-2016 21:48

Think I better go and stock up on some ammo at Bass Pro Shops in Rancho Cucamonga before the election. Another reason to do so is the fact that California Proposition 63 is probably going to pass and make it difficult and expensive to obtain ammo after the beginning of the New Year. :mad:

PSM 10-28-2016 22:47

I was on Aim Surplus this morning ordering mags that were "in stock". Nothing out of the ordinary, I buy something at every season change. By the time I entered my account info, they were "out of stock". Fortunately I have plenty but it was interesting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojaveman
Think I better go and stock up on some ammo at Bass Pro Shops in Rancho Cucamonga before the election. Another reason is the fact that California Proposition 63 is probably going to pass and make it difficult and expensive to obtain ammo after the beginning of the New Year.

You might want to escape before the borders close. The CA AZ border, that is. ;)

Pat

Roguish Lawyer 10-29-2016 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojaveman (Post 618646)
Think I better go and stock up on some ammo at Bass Pro Shops in Rancho Cucamonga before the election. Another reason is the fact that California Proposition 63 is probably going to pass and make it difficult and expensive to obtain ammo after the beginning of the New Year. :mad:

That is a fine establishment! I shop there whenever I can, even though it is really far from my house.

Roguish Lawyer 10-29-2016 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 618644)
I think the odds are low for such an occurrence, but the potential cost of such an incident is high. Tempers are running short, and expectations are mounting. Rumors of voter fraud are rampant and growing. The logical progression is for trouble to start in the larger cities and spread to the smaller ones, but as Ferguson proved, that is not always the case. Anywhere you have large groups of college students, anarchists, socialists, the unemployed, the poor, minorities, the disenfranchised, the hopeless, etc., you can easily use a few agitators to create a problem. Did you watch the Arab Spring? Are things better in those countries now than they were before? Are the movements we supported more pro-American than they were before? If you can find a copy, a book entitled "Unintended Consequences" would be a good primer to see how we got where we are with regards to the 2nd Amendment, and how a crisis could come about from a political problem.

I believe in being prepared, and there is little cost in buying a few extra cans of food, topping off the fuel tanks, or picking up some spare mags. Hell, even a spare rifle and pistol or two. If you don't need them right now, just store them away till you do. I value our preparedness over a shiny new car, an expensive watch, or an expensive vacation.

I live in a nice quiet neighborhood, but there is potential for unrest just a few miles away. I believe that being prepared to deal with contingencies is my responsibility to my family.

Among many threats, our entire nation is greatly at risk from disruption of the electrical grid. Whether caused by solar events, hacking of the grid, or an actual EMP attack, the loss of electrical power across a large portion of this country for more than a few days will cause a horrific end to this once great country. Our government knows that, but has done very little to prepare for it. It is almost like they are hoping for it. If you have not read it already, I suggest you take a look at "One Second After", by Forstchen.

Personally, I believe that civilization is on a gradual downward spiral. It may slow or even stop temporarily, but in the long-term, the trend is down.

I have seen America when it was great, but the lunatics have taken over the asylum now. PC is rampant. Good people fear speaking the truth. Men playing children's games are worshiped as heroes, and their opinions are considered Gospel. Actors and "musicians" are political experts. Religious beliefs (even those that wish to destroy us) are sacrosanct, except for Christians, who founded this country. And the media has completely abrogated their role and has clearly chosen sides in this. What really worries me is what kind of world will my kids and grand-kids grow up in?

We have largely lost the spirit that founded this country, and now have too many takers and not enough makers. Resources are being depleted. Manufacturing here is on life support. Socialism is making a strong comeback. Morals are low, there is no shame, and thugs are worshiped as heroes. And most Americans today value their security over their freedom.

Just my .02, YMMV.

TR

Thanks for being a constant ray of bright sunshine! ;)

VVVV 10-29-2016 16:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Constant (Post 618643)
Geeze, is it really that bad?

Only if you spend too much time online!

frostfire 10-30-2016 08:21

cross thread reference!
 
well, TR sure epitomizes the Angry Man:D

Thank you for the heads up, Reaper Sir. I shoulder have known when the ammo at Academy were flying off the shelves.
Was planning to rid my bang stick, case, and ammo for extra funds. I guess I'll keep them after all.:o


http://www.americanthinker.com/artic..._election.html

The Angry Man owns firearms, and he’s willing to pick up a gun and use it in defense of his home, his country and his family. He is willing to lay down his life to defend the freedom and safety of others, and the thought of killing someone if necessary to achieve those goals gives him only momentary pause.

The Angry Man is not, and never will be, a victim. Nobody like him drowned in Hurricane Katrina. He got his people together and got the hell out. Then, he went back in to rescue those who needed help or were too stupid to help themselves in the first place. He was selfless in this, just as often a civilian as a police officer, a National Guard soldier or a volunteer firefighter. Victimhood syndrome buzzwords; “disenfranchised,” “marginalized” and “voiceless” don’t resonate with The Angry Man. “Press ‘one’ for English” is a curse-word to him.

frostfire 10-30-2016 14:14

California
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mojaveman (Post 618646)
Think I better go and stock up on some ammo at Bass Pro Shops in Rancho Cucamonga before the election. Another reason is the fact that California Proposition 63 is probably going to pass and make it difficult and expensive to obtain ammo after the beginning of the New Year. :mad:

say hello to the "featureless rifle." Only thing left is to paint it any color other than black

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18o5iUL3Tls

Dusty 11-03-2016 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Constant (Post 618643)
Geeze, is it really that bad?

lol Neg

Trump by 6 or 7

ALWAYS be prepared for Anything, though.
ANYTHING.

Paslode 11-03-2016 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 618897)
ALWAYS be prepared for Anything, though.
ANYTHING.

BLM and LaRaza will go wild in the streets

Dusty 11-03-2016 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 618900)
BLM and LaRaza will go wild in the streets

lol To get to me on my "street", have to pass through about 746 30-30's.

This neck o' the woods is chock full of Americans. You know, as opposed to wannabe eurotrash.

There are too many hombres left in the Country who don't resemble the male roommate on "Three's Company" to let the whole thing go down the tubes, Paslode.

Paslode 11-03-2016 14:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 618906)
lol To get to me on my "street", have to pass through about 746 30-30's.

This neck o' the woods is chock full of Americans. You know, as opposed to wannabe eurotrash.

There are too many hombres left in the Country who don't resemble the male roommate on "Three's Company" to let the whole thing go down the tubes, Paslode.


I gotta move closer to the forest.

LarryW 11-03-2016 15:42

TR, what I found to be especially useful is your advice to prepare for food and gas shortages from now thru (probably) Spring. Respectfully suggest if one is relying on a bug-out option should the SHTF (vs garrison in place) to make a practice run from home base to that location, being mindful that if one has to bug-out all the main roads (Interstates & other 4-lanes) are probably going to be jammed. By-ways are better, so get good maps (don't rely on GPS).

In addition to a 1903 Springfield I have a Winchester .357 mag and a 870 in 16ga. I have what I think is a good supply of ammo (.357 and rifled slugs for the 870), but because "I think is good" tells me I don't know shit and need more. Below is a link to a cartridge source in OR that I've used, and have found the ammo to be reliable and consistent in good performance.

https://www.grizzlycartridge.com/

Paslode 11-03-2016 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarryW (Post 618912)
TR, what I found to be especially useful is your advice to prepare for food and gas shortages from now thru (probably) Spring. Respectfully suggest if one is relying on a bug-out option should the SHTF (vs garrison in place) to make a practice run from home base to that location, being mindful that if one has to bug-out all the main roads (Interstates & other 4-lanes) are probably going to be jammed. By-ways are better, so get good maps (don't rely on GPS).

In addition to a 1903 Springfield I have a Winchester .357 mag and a 870 in 16ga. I have what I think is a good supply of ammo (.357 and rifled slugs for the 870), but because "I think is good" tells me I don't know shit and need more. Below is a link to a cartridge source in OR that I've used, and have found the ammo to be reliable and consistent in good performance.

https://www.grizzlycartridge.com/


That reminds me that I need to invest in a shotgun and ammo for it.

The Reaper 11-03-2016 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarryW (Post 618912)
TR, what I found to be especially useful is your advice to prepare for food and gas shortages from now thru (probably) Spring. Respectfully suggest if one is relying on a bug-out option should the SHTF (vs garrison in place) to make a practice run from home base to that location, being mindful that if one has to bug-out all the main roads (Interstates & other 4-lanes) are probably going to be jammed. By-ways are better, so get good maps (don't rely on GPS).

In addition to a 1903 Springfield I have a Winchester .357 mag and a 870 in 16ga. I have what I think is a good supply of ammo (.357 and rifled slugs for the 870), but because "I think is good" tells me I don't know shit and need more. Below is a link to a cartridge source in OR that I've used, and have found the ammo to be reliable and consistent in good performance.

https://www.grizzlycartridge.com/

I am a fan of picking a good place to live and stay, rather than bugging out. I am getting too old to be on the road afoot. I do have family and friends I could drop in on, but I do not see the circumstances where that would be better than my current location.

Good weapons, but .357 could be difficult to find, and as a former 16 Gauge owner, that stuff is nearly impossible to locate, especially in buckshot loads.

My Winchester .357 carbine has also been finnicky, especially with .38 loads. Hope yours are better.

Love the '03.

TR

LarryW 11-03-2016 23:16

Yes, sir, TR. All very good gouge. The .38 is for the 3" wheel gun out in my truck. The Winchester uses .357 only. Yes, have suffered the finicky attitude of .38's in the Winchester. They are just that much too short for smooth action. .357 are fine but lousy if cycling is slow. One has to be deliberate and intentional. The 16ga is admittedly a hi-bred, but I picked it up cheap a few years back. Great condition and something to fill in for a house gun anyway. The thing thrives on rifled slugs (about the same ballistic performance as a .45-70 Govt). Cost for 16ga slugs is about $1/round (at least right now). Prefer ball ammo vice frangible stuff, too. Better penetratio0n. When using buckshot I prefer #1 vice 00. There's not enough difference between .33 cal (00) and .30 cal (#1) for me to sneeze at, and with singles I get more pellets/round. The '03 will put meat on the table if I stay in North America, and I have laid up a good amount of .30-06 ammo. Love it, and with the bayonet it adds a certain visual impression.

Yes, sir, I'm too well seasoned to abandon the garrison life and go a roving thru zombie-land. I'll stay put. I have a good backup of red beans and rice (6mos worth, plus) and enough room for a patch of potatoes and greens when the beans run low. There's a small year round spring fed stream that adjoins the back of the property. Enough hard wood around for kindling and a fire.

For recreation I'm a student of the French Resistance. At my age I find it reasonable to conclude being less visible is best. Just being the old fool who keeps to himself is a better profile for me. Type casting, actually. The dog agrees.

In the end there's only so much one can do if the bubble really goes up. Mine won't be for not fighting back, however.

Penn 11-09-2016 14:01

Protest in seven cities
 
On going...?

Yesterday, I found two comments to be rather odd, one was made by Juan XXX, on the Five at Fox news. He stated 'Not my President", and one was made by VAN XXX the Black cohost on various CNN panels. He stated that the election felt like a "Whitelash"....both of those were exclusionary statements, and seemed unnecessary as well as divisive. At odds with the P/Elect, POTUS, and Clinton's come together remarks.

Will it grow and become violent?:munchin

The protest that are happening now are using both as rally calls, that requires planning before the election results were in for it to occur today in seven cities simultaneously.

Ret10Echo 11-09-2016 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penn (Post 619359)
On going...?

Will it grow and become violent?:munchin

What a boring news cycle without discord.

Trolling.... I'm sure someone will bite

Penn 11-09-2016 14:10

no F'IN TROLL HERE.....Turn on CNN

cbtengr 11-09-2016 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penn (Post 619359)
On going...?

Yesterday, I found two comments to be rather odd, one was made by Juan XXX, on the Five at Fox news. He stated 'Not my President", and one was made by VAN XXX the Black cohost on various CNN panels. He stated that the election felt like a "Whitelash"....both of those were exclusionary statements, and seemed unnecessary as well as divisive. At odds with the P/Elect, POTUS, and Clinton's come together remarks.

Will it grow and become violent?:munchin

The protest that are happening now are using both as rally calls, that requires planning before the election results were in for it to occur today in seven cities simultaneously.

Juan XXX at FOX can thank his lucky stars that FOX feels sorry for stray dogs.

mojaveman 11-09-2016 14:33

Quote:

Will it grow and become violent?
Yes sir.

Wait, watch and see. ;)

Ret10Echo 11-09-2016 14:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penn (Post 619362)
no F'IN TROLL HERE.....Turn on CNN

Penn, Not in reference to you....

No slight intended

I read the Moveon blog post seeking to inspire reactions.


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