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Pete 07-12-2010 17:41

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Officers identified in shooting at Costco; lawyer says man did not pull gun

http://www.lvrj.com/news/man-did-not...-98279344.html

".........Officers William Mosher, 38, Joshua Stark, 28, and Thomas Mendiola, 23, shot and killed Erik Scott, 39, near the exit of the store. Mosher, the veteran of the group, has been with the agency five years. Stark and Mendiola have been with the department for less than two years............."

and

".....Saturday's shooting was not the first for Mosher, who in April 2006 was one of two officers who shot and killed a suspect in a car......"

echoes 07-12-2010 17:51

Shar,

My condolences to you, on the loss of your friend.:(

J8127 07-12-2010 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by fng13 (Post 339004)
Sir,

Is that true for all PD's? If so that scares the s*** out of me because I have already gone through 2 dui checkpoints when I was CCW. I informed the officer that I was carrying and it wasn't a problem, but that makes me nervous. What about open carry then because I do that when I'm hunting.

This is general, not in reference to the topic at hand,

fng13, no police offer, actually no american has to wait for you to actually point a gun at them to respond with deadly force. The threat of going for one is enough. I may butcher the exact legal wording, but if a person of a sound mind justifiably feels threatened with severe or lethal bodily harm they may defend themselves with up to deadly force of their own.

A LEO cannot blast you because you have a gun on your hip, but if he thinks you are reaching for it to shoot him with, he has the right to defend himself, just like any private citizen really.

To the OP I apologize for not expressing my condolences, I am sorry for your loss, no matter how close or distant they may have been.

rdret1 07-12-2010 17:54

Our condolences on the loss of your friend Shar.

HOLLiS 07-12-2010 19:36

My condolences on the death of your friend, Shar,


Rest In Peace.

BigJimCalhoun 07-12-2010 20:22

I wonder if there were conflicting commands from the police officers on the scene - one telling Mr. Scott to do one thing and someone else commandng him to do something else.

Richard 07-12-2010 20:44

SA was FUBAR all around.

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Over 07-12-2010 22:51

Here's the version of the story I received: http://www.lvrj.com/news/slaying-of-...-98223884.html.

I went to a very small high school with Erik and his younger brother, Kevin. Erik was 3 years ahead of me, but he was a standup individual then, a mentor to a friend of mine while at USMA, and a friend and an inspiration to most in our school.

I know it's been a long time since I've seen him, longer than Shar, but I think it would be ABSOLUTELY out of character for Erik to have destroyed merchandise or brandish a weapon to individuals in the store--causing the police response. I guarantee this will be deemed a bad shoot, which means nothing at this point because we have lost a great individual.

My prayers go out to his family and friends.

Todd 1 07-12-2010 23:47

This is a terrible situation all the way around, my condolence and sympathy to the family and friends of Mr. Scott.

Sierra Bravo 07-13-2010 10:29

My friend is on the investigating team

He is a retired Army Ranger

this should be interesting

I'll pass along any details that are relevant

RIP

Green Light 07-13-2010 11:42

I am so sorry for your friend's death. Terribly tragic.

Utah Bob 07-13-2010 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sierra Bravo (Post 339123)
My friend is on the investigating team

He is a retired Army Ranger

this should be interesting

I'll pass along any details that are relevant

RIP

Thank you.

DJ Urbanovsky 07-14-2010 09:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgoerz (Post 338993)
I would not even tell them I had a Gun. Simply do what they say. Then when they have control of you. Then tell them your carrying. A lot more to this story thou I'm sure.

This part could, at the very least, lead to your losing your permit here in NE. If you've got a CCW permit, you're required by law to inform the police at the beginning of any official contact. It'll also come up on their terminal when they run your ID. Again, that's here in NE. But I'd do the same thing anywhere. At the onset of official contact, keeping hands visible and at no time reaching for the weapon: "I'm required by law to inform you that I have a concealed carry permit and that I am carrying a firearm. What would you like me to do, sir?" Then follow the cop's instructions.

Shar, sorry for your loss.

Razor 07-14-2010 10:43

Be thou at peace.

kgoerz 07-14-2010 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by fng13 (Post 339004)
Sir,

Is that true for all PD's? If so that scares the s*** out of me because I have already gone through 2 dui checkpoints when I was CCW. I informed the officer that I was carrying and it wasn't a problem, but that makes me nervous. What about open carry then because I do that when I'm hunting.

Shar.

I'm sorry for your loss, I just lost one of my best friends 2 weeks ago in a car wreck. I feel your pain of losing your friend in a tragic way.

Your talking about two totally different circumstances. Read my post again carefully


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