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oda751 11-24-2012 21:44

FOB #2 / CCC 1966,67,68
 
Sgm Edward Thatcher. E-5/6 at the time at FOB2. Worked in commo bunker with SFC Butrim, SFC Thompson. While I was there I knew Squirill Sprouse, Snake Adams, Howard, Zabakoski, Terry, Goodhue, Musselman, and many others. Mad Dog Shiver was they for a short while with his monkey. Have some pictures. Just moved Nov 2012 to Navarre FL near Eglin and the 7th SFGA.

JYD73 12-20-2012 15:02

Gentlemen,

By chance did any of you MACV-SOG warriors serve with SGT James N. Pruit? Could you tell me which RT he was with, and any details of the 17 July 1969 POW snatch mission on which he was nominated for the Medal of Honor? Any information is greatly appreciated. Thanks much!

lovemycountry 12-20-2012 20:36

JYD, I have no information for you but share your want for info....On 17 July 1969...James Pruit not only performed a prisoner Snatch but performed 2 snatches...unfortunately both were "silenced" during the attack. "Sergeant Pruitt threw his own body against the prisoner of war in an effort to prevent his death. ""However, the numerically superior enemy force gained fire superiority and seriously wounded Sergeant Pruitt and silenced their captured comrade." There was no mention of what RT. I share your thirst for knowledge. I have read many books but cannot find more info.

LMC

DDD 12-20-2012 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by JYD73 (Post 479324)
Gentlemen,

By chance did any of you MACV-SOG warriors serve with SGT James N. Pruit? Could you tell me which RT he was with, and any details of the 17 July 1969 POW snatch mission on which he was nominated for the Medal of Honor? Any information is greatly appreciated. Thanks much!

Don't know the RT he was with. He talked to my phase III class in depth about that mission (but I've forgotten a lot). His 1-1 was Buck Buchanan and after he (Pruit) was evaced because of his wounds (eviseration, collapased lung, right ear partially detached, and a 7.62 through one foot) Donnie Powers replaced him as the 1-0. The 7.62 wound was inflicted by gunships making East/West and North/South runs on their postion prior to a slick dropping a Mcguire rig for extract.

Hope this helps.

lovemycountry 12-20-2012 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDD (Post 479381)
Don't know the RT he was with. He talked to my phase III class in depth about that mission (but I've forgotten a lot). His 1-1 was Buck Buchanan and after he (Pruit) was evaced because of his wounds (eviseration, collapased lung, right ear partially detached, and a 7.62 through one foot) Donnie Powers replaced him as the 1-0. The 7.62 wound was inflicted by gunships making East/West and North/South runs on their postion prior to a slick dropping a Mcguire rig for extract.

Hope this helps.

was that Ralph (BUCK) Buchanan? If so look at http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...=47009460...he mentions Vietnam

DDD 12-20-2012 21:28

Sorry, L don't know. Never met the man.
DDD

Ambush Master 12-21-2012 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovemycountry (Post 479388)
was that Ralph (BUCK) Buchanan? If so look at http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...=47009460...he mentions Vietnam

Negative. There were Kyle R., Larry D., and Michael D., but no Ralph in SOG.

JYD73 12-23-2012 14:43

Thanks for the info, I will try looking into the Buchanan and Powers route. No bit of information is too small, as it generally leads to new avenues of research. I will be FOIA ing SSGT Pruitts MoH packet sometime soon, but I know that will not contain the RT team. Unfortunately the location of action will only read "deep in enemy occupied territory" as well. His MoH packet is one of only three that were downgraded and are fully contained in the National Archives. Hopefully(fingers crossed) there will be legislation this spring going into the NDAA to waive the time limit and provide a route for review to upgrade these and other MACV-SOG and Special Operations time sensative medals and awards. I'm headed back to DC in March to work on gathering more support for this legislative effort, which is 1/2 of the battle. Never thought I'd be a lobbyist, but apparently now I am, sort of. The other half will be preparing packets for the actual reviews themselves through the Army, and SSGT Pruitts mission has the least information available. So thanks much for even the smallest bits of information!

Hope you all have a Merry Christmas!

bushmaster11 06-10-2013 21:11

MACV-SOG P.U.C.
 
Has anyone had trouble getting PUC put on DD 214? St Louis said to go through Board of Corrections. I filed their forms and submitted the packet last year. I just got their decision and they have denied including the PUC on DD 214 because my records reflect assignment to SOACCN. My records show no affiliation with MACV-SOG. I had sent them all orders to and from CCN. I also included the GO for the PUC. How did others get the PUC into their official file. I am retired, no pressing reason, other than the pride of being recognized by any future ancestors.

J R sends
De Oppresso Liber

Richard 06-10-2013 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by bushmaster11 (Post 510650)
Has anyone had trouble getting PUC put on DD 214? St Louis said to go through Board of Corrections. I filed their forms and submitted the packet last year. I just got their decision and they have denied including the PUC on DD 214 because my records reflect assignment to SOACCN. My records show no affiliation with MACV-SOG. I had sent them all orders to and from CCN. I also included the GO for the PUC. How did others get the PUC into their official file. I am retired, no pressing reason, other than the pride of being recognized by any future ancestors.

J R sends
De Oppresso Liber

I'd resubmit it with an attachment citing something like Plaster's or Greco's or Hardy's or Saal's books offering a documented historical narrative explaining exactly how 5th SFG SOA was a "cover" for assignment to MACVSOG. Effin' legs today have no idea otherwise.

Good luck.

Richard

Badger52 06-11-2013 05:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 510654)
I'd resubmit it with an attachment citing something like Plaster's or Greco's or Hardy's or Saal's books offering a documented historical narrative explaining exactly how 5th SFG SOA was a "cover" for assignment to MACVSOG. Effin' legs today have no idea otherwise.

Good luck.

Richard

YGBSM sir. This is a sorry state of affairs; maybe the Wiki entry would be something they'd understand. Jeebers.
:rolleyes:

JYD73 06-25-2013 09:09

PUC
 
Hope this helps, a more detailed message sent too sir!

http://www.history.army.mil/html/for...GO-2001-25.pdf

bushmaster11 07-16-2013 16:15

PUC redux
 
I resubmitted an appeal. I sent them a copy of the actual General Order 25, In the FIRST sentence when listing units that are covered is 5th SFG, SOACCN. I also sent them additional orders that leave no doubt of assignment. I then asked them why did they not bother to look at the order with it spelled out for them. I know I should not have, but I am still Pissed. Will post final adjudication. Thanks all.

J R sends
DOL

bushmaster11 08-27-2013 14:03

PUC update
 
Got letter from Review Board. Will not use initial case number, so it has new number which puts it back of the line to start over. So, it will take another year to make the decision.

J R sends
DOL

JYD73 11-13-2016 07:02

Rose Medal of Honor MACV-SOG
 
I haven’t been on here in quite some time. Hope you gentlemen are well. Most of you have probably heard or seen about Mike Rose’s upgrade of this DSC to the Medal of Honor as he was originally nominated. We’re in last phase of this effort, just waiting for the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act with time-limit waiver to go through authorizing POTUS to present. Many thanks for those who assisted in contacts and helping to find people to complete this mission. Below is the article from the NYT.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/us...rose.html?_r=0


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