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Dusty 03-05-2011 07:18

ABC to Air "Good Muslim Bitches" TV Pilot
 
My bad: It's actually a pilot for "Good Christian Bitches"...


http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...le/?test=faces

An ABC pilot called “Good Christian Bitches” has religious and women’s groups up in arms over what they describe as an extremely offensive and distasteful show title.

The dramedy, based on Kim Gatlin’s novel of the same name, will be brought to life by famed “Sex and the City” and “90210” executive producer Darren Star. The plot centers on the life of reformed “mean girl” Amanda, played by “Talladega Nights” actress Leslie Bibb, who returns to her hometown of Dallas to find herself fodder for malicious gossip from the women in the Christian community.

Still in the early stages, the pilot has not been guaranteed a spot on ABC’s lineup. And though the show’s title may change before it goes to broadcast, “Good Christian Bitches” is already causing uproar.

Christian publisher Tessie DeVore told FOX411’s Pop Tarts column that the show, which features the tagline “For Heaven’s sake, don’t let God get in the way of a good story!” could put Christians in an unfairly bad light.

“I find the title offensive. I don’t think those two words should be combined,” she said. “A show like this can damage perceptions [of Christians in this country].”

It also could be a slippery slope for future shows, said Melissa Henson, director of communications and public education for the Parents’ Television Council tells Tarts.

“In the past, we’ve raised concerns about changing language standards for television," Henson said. "Once a particular profanity or obscenity has been embraced by a particular show, it quickly becomes mainstream.”

And Yana Walton from the Women’s Media Center said Christians aren't the only ones who should be upset.

“It is not an appropriate term to use to describe any woman, regardless of their faith,” Walton said. “Entertainment media, especially music and films, have been normalizing misogynistic language for years.”

But despite the seemingly outrageous title, Dan Gainor, head of the Culture and Media Institute, is not surprised that the pilot has gone this far already.

“ABC is doubling down on the offensive by also approving ‘Don’t Trust the Bitch in Apartment 23,’ following up on the CBS show ‘$#*! My Dad Says.’ And this continued decline is unsurprising,” he said.

“The media keeps trying to redefine words and morality to mean what they say, not what they really do mean," Gainor added. "One wonders which network will be the first to drop the F-bomb in a TV title and whether the FCC will even intervene.”

Even if the title holds up, some are looking forward to the show.

“ABC’s core viewership is Christian, so the goal of the show won’t be to attack Christianity. Just like the book, this is a show by Christians, for (mostly) Christians, to enjoy a little prime-time self-deprecation,” Los Angeles-based entertainment expert, Jenn Hoffman said

Richard 03-05-2011 07:31

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“I find the title offensive. I don’t think those two words should be combined,” she said. “A show like this can damage perceptions [of Christians in this country].”
LOL - that's a good one!

Richard
:munchin

kgoerz 03-05-2011 07:35

Religious people put a lot of self importance on themselves. Nobody cares.

The Reaper 03-05-2011 09:40

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Originally Posted by kgoerz (Post 379735)
Religious people put a lot of self importance on themselves. Nobody cares.

They do when they are Muslims, and kill people over it.:rolleyes:

I guess Christians are a safe group to mock.

TR

1stindoor 03-10-2011 08:22

Latest news on the subject...
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ABC sparked outrage when they announced they were developing a pilot based on Kim Gatlin’s book, “Good Christian Bitches.”

Following last week’s FOX411 report, the American Family Association started a petition calling on “ABC and parent company Disney to drop all plans to air the anti-Christian program ‘Good Christian B-tches.’"

ABC has since changed the working title to “GCB,” but the AFA is undaunted.

"Our boycott has really resonated with television viewers – especially the Christian community – who are shocked and appalled that ABC/Disney would even consider airing such a program with anti-Christian content, anti-Christian bigotry and the insulting of the American Christian with this type of show,” Randy Sharp, director of special projects for the American Family Association, told FOX411. “The name of the show is offensive to Christians, it's insulting and demeaning, it's misrepresentative of the Christian community–not just that, I think it's insulting to all women.”

The petition is at 120,000 signatures and growing.

“As more and more people find out about it, they want to take action and speak out,” Sharp explained. “And this is one way they can make their voices heard with the executives at ABC."

The dramedy will be brought to life by “Sex and the City” and “90210” executive producer Darren Star. The plot centers on the life of reformed “mean girl” Amanda, played by “Talladega Nights” actress Leslie Bibb, who returns to her hometown of Dallas to find herself fodder for malicious gossip from the women in the Christian community.

While the title of the show may have been abbreviated, the gravity of insult has not, according to Sharp.

“I'm going to speak personally,” Sharp said. “Anyone would who would refer to my wife or my daughters as a 'B,' it would make me extremely angry and I think it's insulting in general for ABC to think that this is an appropriate word to use for females.”
http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.c...t/?test=faces#

Wolf07 03-10-2011 08:47

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Religious people put a lot of self importance on themselves. Nobody cares.
I was unaware that I did that. I am fascinated you know that, without ever meeting me. :munchin

I am tired of people who rag on Christianity and other religions, when in my experience they tend to be the "nice" people. sure, every group has its bad apples. But blanket statements are just wrong.

And I certainly do not approve of my Christian sisters being portrayed as a bunch of "bitches".

This was not a good way to start my day.

Richard 03-10-2011 09:10

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And I certainly do not approve of my Christian sisters being portrayed as a bunch of "bitches".
I agree - that's so olde school. They should've used "beeyotches" for a broader appeal to anyone under 40.

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This was not a good way to start my day.
I suggest you get a dog. I have a Black Lab bitch - she thinks I'm gawd and I go along with it - makes both our days better. :D

Have a very SF day.

Richard
:munchin

Dusty 03-10-2011 09:16

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 380647)
I agree - that's so olde school. They should've used "beeyotches" for a broader appeal to anyone under 40.



I suggest you get a dog. I have a Black Lab bitch - she thinks I'm gawd and I go along with it - makes both our days better. :D

Have a very SF day.

Richard
:munchin

I guess atheists can have it both ways; sittin' in the cat bird seat and smartassing everybody with a belief in God.

Sacamuelas 03-10-2011 09:18

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Originally Posted by Wolf07 (Post 380643)
I was unaware that I did that. I am fascinated you know that, without ever meeting me. :munchin

Hey Wolf... you better turn on your situation awareness asap. kgoerz is a vetted QP on this board. Your profile states "ROTC" as your quals. YOU are a guest here. Disagree all you want, but do it respectfully. All that youthful sarcasm isn't needed when addressing other members :mad:

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when in my experience they tend to be the "nice" people. sure, every group has its bad apples. But blanket statements are just wrong.
Nice blanket statement. LOL I have also found that most child molesters that I have had conversations with through my job profess to be strict religious believers and quote scripture to me all the time. How's that for a blanket statement.

On topic... I am against the tv show's title for reasons much more important to me than religious vanity. It's public television and the commercials/trailers for it will run during times that my 7 yr old children will be watching tv. I do not want them to be "mainstreamed" into thinking that calling women bitches is acceptable.

greenberetTFS 03-10-2011 09:19

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Originally Posted by Wolf07 (Post 380643)
I was unaware that I did that. I am fascinated you know that, without ever meeting me. :munchin

I am tired of people who rag on Christianity and other religions, when in my experience they tend to be the "nice" people. sure, every group has its bad apples. But blanket statements are just wrong.

And I certainly do not approve of my Christian sisters being portrayed as a bunch of "bitches".

This was not a good way to start my day.

I agree with this young man,that title is inappropriate and gives a bad impression about Christian women.............:(:(:(

Big Teddy

Richard 03-10-2011 09:52

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Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 380649)
I guess atheists can have it both ways; sittin' in the cat bird seat and smartassing everybody with a belief in God.

FWIW - it can be said that I am many things - but athiest is not one of them and neither is Christian.

As for the original topic of this thread, I, too, find the use of the word 'bitches' in the title of any mainstreaam TV program to be uncalled for and inappropriate no matter who it refers to in the program.

And so it goes...

Richard
:munchin

1stindoor 03-10-2011 10:20

I may have asked this before...but what do you call an agnostic insomniac dyslexic?

Someone that stays awake all night wondering if there truly is a Dog.

KW9598 03-10-2011 13:19

more importantly, Leslie Bibb is hot

The Creepy One 03-10-2011 13:33

Eh, I find the title and the show's premise offensive and I would like to do something painful to them, but by the same token I'm not surprised I mean, it's TV, what'd you expect?

Sigaba 03-10-2011 14:22

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Originally Posted by Wolf07 (Post 380643)
But blanket statements are just wrong.

Ah, irony.
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Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 380649)
I guess atheists can have it both ways; sittin' in the cat bird seat and smartassing everybody with a belief in God.

In my experience, QP Richard smart asses everybody, regardless of their religiosity.
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Originally Posted by KW9598 (Post 380692)
more importantly, Leslie Bibb is hot

Fortunately, I'm sophisticated enough as a television viewer that a actor's hotness will not motivate me to watch a television show. (Primarily because Christina Applegate passed on the lead character and Ms. Bibb got the role.)

Pete 03-10-2011 14:24

Or
 
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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 380703)
Ah, irony.In my experience, QP Richard smart asses everybody, regardless of their religiosity.

Or keeps most on their toes by pointing out to them what they just posted.

Sten 03-10-2011 14:40

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Originally Posted by The Creepy One (Post 380697)
Eh, I find the title and the show's premise offensive and I would like to do something painful to them, but by the same token I'm not surprised I mean, it's TV, what'd you expect?

I am not one to quote the bible, but where did Jesus say anything about kicking peoples asses?

1stindoor 03-10-2011 15:06

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Originally Posted by Sten (Post 380708)
I am not one to quote the bible, but where did Jesus say anything about kicking peoples asses?

I can quote it at times...I can research it when I can't...
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Originally Posted by John Chapter 2 verses 14 to 17
And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:

And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;

And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.

And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.

By my reading, Jesus not only kicked their asses...he whipped them as well.

mark46th 03-10-2011 15:29

I would have watched it if Christina Applegate was the star. The fact that she refused the role, proves her to have both grace and common sense.

Sten 03-10-2011 16:54

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Originally Posted by 1stindoor (Post 380712)
I can quote it at times...I can research it when I can't...

By my reading, Jesus not only kicked their asses...he whipped them as well.

Matt 5 48-43

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38Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Wolf07 03-10-2011 21:21

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I am tired of people who rag on Christianity and other religions, when in my experience they tend to be the "nice" people. sure, every group has its bad apples. But blanket statements are just wrong.
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Nice blanket statement. LOL
True. :D I find my pants down.

bigcat524 03-11-2011 10:18

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Originally Posted by Sten (Post 380730)
Matt 5 48-43

Who is to say that a good" ass whipping" is not loving thy neighbor?

He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24) and "Withhold not correction from a child: for if thou strike him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs 23:13-14)

Sigaba 03-11-2011 13:36

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Originally Posted by bigcat524 (Post 380846)
Who is to say that a good" ass whipping" is not loving thy neighbor?

He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24) and "Withhold not correction from a child: for if thou strike him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs 23:13-14)

That's an interesting excuse for paternalistic violence, if not a compelling argument.

GratefulCitizen 03-11-2011 16:40

Thought the whole "turn the other cheek" thing had to do with not being easily provoked and not being bent on vengeance.
Never understood it to mean submissively being a target/punching bag.

Paul addresses much of this theme in Romans 12.
The punching bag issue is addressed in verse 18.
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If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. (NIV)
Paul acknowledges that it isn't always up to you.

Utah Bob 03-11-2011 19:39

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I don’t think those two words should be combined,
Which two? Good Christian or Christian Bitches? ;)

Dusty 03-11-2011 23:13

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 380857)
That's an interesting excuse for paternalistic violence, if not a compelling argument.


A lack of prudently applied paternalistic violence (ass whippings) has been one of the prime causes of the lack of respect so rampant with the Country's youth going back four decades. Lack of respect breeds contempt and leads to a failure of the sense of discipline, which leads to misbehavior which escalates into violence.

I blame it on Spock.

akv 03-12-2011 06:05

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Originally Posted by Dusty
A lack of prudently applied paternalistic violence (ass whippings) has been one of the prime causes of the lack of respect so rampant with the Country's youth going back four decades. Lack of respect breeds contempt and leads to a failure of the sense of discipline, which leads to misbehavior which escalates into violence.

I blame it on Spock.

Dusty,

I agree spare the rod spoil the child, please explain Spock's culpability?

Dusty 03-12-2011 07:16

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Originally Posted by akv (Post 380959)
Dusty,

I agree spare the rod spoil the child, please explain Spock's culpability?

From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Spock

Political involvement:

In 1962, Spock joined The Committee for a Sane Nuclear Policy, otherwise known as SANE. Spock was politically outspoken and active in the movement to end the Vietnam War. In 1968, he and four others (including William Sloane Coffin, Marcus Raskin, Mitchell Goodman, and Michael Ferber) were singled out for prosecution by then Attorney General Ramsey Clark on charges of conspiracy to counsel, aid, and abet resistance to the draft.[7] Spock and three of his alleged co-conspirators were convicted, although the five had never been in the same room together. His two-year prison sentence was never served; the case was appealed and in 1969 a federal court set aside his conviction.

In 1967, Spock was to be nominated as Martin Luther King, Jr.'s vice-presidential running mate at the National Conference for New Politics over Labor Day weekend in Chicago. According to William F. Pepper's Orders to Kill, however, the conference was broken up by agents provocateurs working for the government.

In 1968, Spock signed the “Writers and Editors War Tax Protest” pledge, vowing to refuse tax payments in protest against the Vietnam War.[8]

Spock was the People's Party candidate in the 1972 United States presidential election with a platform that called for free medical care, the repeal of "victimless crime" laws, including the legalization of abortion, homosexuality, and marijuana, a guaranteed minimum income for families and the immediate withdrawal of all American troops from foreign countries.[9] In the 1970s and 1980s, Spock demonstrated and gave lectures against nuclear weapons and cuts in social welfare programs.

In 1972, Spock, Julius Hobson (his Vice Presidential candidate), Linda Jenness (Socialist Workers Party Presidential candidate), and Socialist Workers Party Vice Presidential candidate Andrew Pulley wrote to Major General Bert A. David, commanding officer of Fort Dix, asking for permission to distribute campaign literature and to hold an election-related campaign meeting. On the basis of Fort Dix regulations 210-26 and 210-27, General David refused the request. Spock, Hobson, Jenness, Pulley, and others then filed a case that ultimately made its way to the United States Supreme Court (424 U.S. 828—Greer, Commander, Fort Dix Military Reservation, et al., v. Spock et al.), which ruled against the plaintiffs.[10]

akv 03-12-2011 09:46

LOL, that makes sense, I had no idea who Benjamin Spock was, I thought you were blaming the Vulcan character from Star Trek, thinking well perhaps he is inferring kids in the 60's grew up thinking you should logically reason with your kids when they misbehave instead of spanking them....

Sigaba 03-05-2012 00:26

#GCB bows
 
The cast isn't as attractive as the ensemble in Eastwick, the show is not nearly as funny, nor as well written, nor as believable.

But Kristin Chenoweth is still Kristin Chenoweth so I'll give it five more minutes before offering constructive criticism on the show's FB page.

JJ_BPK 03-05-2012 04:41

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Originally Posted by 1stindoor (Post 380665)
I may have asked this before...but what do you call an agnostic insomniac dyslexic?

Someone that stays awake all night wondering if there truly is a Dog.

Mashugana !!!!


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