Professional Soldiers ®

Professional Soldiers ® (http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/index.php)
-   The Early Bird (http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45)
-   -   Study Finds Heart Disease Drug Combats Racism (http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37145)

Paslode 03-13-2012 22:05

Study Finds Heart Disease Drug Combats Racism
 
Talk about bias, labeling and discrimination...I had hopes the likes of David Duke would have been accompanied by King Shabazz and Louie Farrakahn....they even called them 'White people' instead of the appropriate term Caucasian.

Quote:

Thirty-six white people were used in the study, with half getting propranolol and the other half getting a placebo. Researchers then used a feeling thermometer to rate how “warm” they felt toward different groups.
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/...ombats-racism/

steel71 03-13-2012 22:19

More race baiting from the corporate media, that never happens.:rolleyes:

Dozer523 03-14-2012 06:32

What a waste of time and effort. While at IOBC in 1979 a bunch of walked into a soul food restaurant in Phoenix City and got "treated".

Dusty 03-14-2012 06:51

Hey, cool! Give it to all those haters like the followers of Derrick Bell and Farrakhan, then.

Land sakes! Wonder if you could use estrogen treatment to cut down on the He-Man Woman Haters like Limbaugh and his ilk, too?

(Not the liberal woman-haters, though-they're just comedians.)

Paslode 03-14-2012 06:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by steel71 (Post 439848)
More race baiting from the corporate media, that never happens.:rolleyes:

Here's another link with a more in depth explanation of what happened and the concerns of some.

All joking aside this could be the first step in getting racism classified in the DSM, and like ADHD this diagnosis would bring in a windfall of cash to the psychiatric and pharmaceutical industries.

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/stor...1#.T2CUxfX2U8A

Dusty 03-14-2012 07:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 439871)
Here's another link with a more in depth explanation of what happened and the concerns of some.

All joking aside this could be the first step in getting racism classified in the DSM, and like ADHD this diagnosis would bring in a windfall of cash to the psychiatric and pharmaceutical industries.

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/stor...1#.T2CUxfX2U8A

lol Not so fast. You're referring to a study which included 36 whites.
You get a cluster of New Black Panthers or some Nation of Islamites to do it, then we'll see what happens.

Or is "racism" now defined as only practiced by whites?

JimP 03-14-2012 07:54

wait a minute...think this through: if us crackers can get this classified as a "disease" under the DSMV, the gravy train will park in our driveway as nothing would be our "our fault". Its the fault of government and we'll need Gubmint assistance; preferred admissions in elite schools and colleges; job preferences; contract set-asides for us poor racist, ignorant crackers; never having to admit that we might just be a stupid, ignorant cracker lacking a work ethic as everything will be someone else's fault. We won't have to produce; can't be fired and can coast to the highest positions of government based upon "cracker-heritage" alone. Our wife can get her pay tripled for a no-show job.

Wow...the possibilities are endless. :lifter

PedOncoDoc 03-14-2012 11:18

I just read the full research manuscript and, although the research tools are (apparently) valid, I'm not impressed that the conclusions are supported by the small number of patients. Propranolol is a beta-blocker, a medicine that blockes the effects of epinephrine/norepinephrine (think adrenaline). Low heart rate is one of the dose-limiting effects of propranolol as a blood pressure medication, hence the "significantly lowered heart rate" in the link in the OP.

The researchers gave patients either propranolol (the adrenaline blocking medicine) or a placebo (sugar pill) and asked them to report their "feelings" towards pictures of people from other races and/or religions and towards words associated with people of other ethnicity/religion. The findings rely on the hypothesis that subliminal cues from adrenaline affect your gut-reaction opinion of others.

I'm not familiar with the methods used, but they are apparently validated tools in their field of research. I also don't think they tested enough patients to make any clear conclusions.

I also think the work would be more validated if they included study participants from multiple ethnicities and religions and found the same results from minority participants when they see pictures and/or words related to those from outside their ethnicity/religion. It would also be an interesting finding if people from within the minority group had a similar reaction to people from their own minority.

Streck-Fu 03-14-2012 11:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 439872)
Or is "racism" now defined as only practiced by whites?

Isn't that the definition the media and politicians have always used?

Requiem 03-14-2012 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by PedOncoDoc (Post 439910)
Propranolol is a beta-blocker, a medicine that blockes the effects of epinephrine/norepinephrine (think adrenaline).

If so then it would work for just about any situation that results in less than "warm fuzzy feelings" wouldn't it? Like seeing a spouse cheat on you, or catching the neighbor's dog pooping on your lawn. How does this medication prove anything except it dulls a person's reaction to something?

Should we give it to everyone in need of a warm fuzzy?

Susan

PedOncoDoc 03-14-2012 11:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 439912)
If so then it would work for just about any situation that results in less than "warm fuzzy feelings" wouldn't it? Like seeing a spouse cheat on you, or catching the neighbor's dog pooping on your lawn. How does this medication prove anything except it dulls a person's reaction to something?

Should we give it to everyone in need of a warm fuzzy?

Susan

Part of why I'm not buying the science. All they are saying is it blunts the negative emotion associated with a picture and/or words. They do mention there was no statistically significant delay in response time after taking propranolol.

You could probably find a similar effect to positive emotional cues as well - a wink or compliment from a cute gal, for example, but I doubt that study will be performed.

Kyobanim 03-14-2012 12:52

Probably get the same results if you gave them some pot to smoke

Pete 03-14-2012 13:11

I was just..........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyobanim (Post 439918)
Probably get the same results if you gave them some pot to smoke

.................going to say that.

PedOncoDoc 03-14-2012 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyobanim (Post 439918)
Probably get the same results if you gave them some pot to smoke

I'd have to disagree - I've seen some people get quite paranoid after smoking pot. If you gave them a few beers, however... :munchin

Paslode 03-14-2012 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 439872)
lol Not so fast. You're referring to a study which included 36 whites.
You get a cluster of New Black Panthers or some Nation of Islamites to do it, then we'll see what happens.

Or is "racism" now defined as only practiced by whites?

Considering that it is justified for King Shabazz sings songs about killing white babies, harasses people at the polls and Calypso Louie rants about killing Jews and Whites..........Based on MSM coverage and our Governments Policies I believe it is pretty apparent that White People must be in the need for a fix'n and their judgement day is fast approaching.


So one could assume that since the 'experiment' was exclusive to 'White People' that White People are the main, if not the sole perpetrators of racism throughout the world.....why else would you not include a broader demographic of people. And based on the experiment, IF the pharmaceutical companies can come up with the right pill the Evil White Man and his racists thoughts can be brought under control.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:45.


Copyright 2004-2022 by Professional Soldiers ®