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exsquid 08-26-2018 20:54

Trapper:

I wouldn't worry. The Chinese will gladly sell us all the SA natural resources we want. Just at a huge mark up. :D

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tom kelly 08-28-2018 14:48

South Africa ?
 
Did SA have Nuclear Weapons at one time? what happened to them??? Tom Kelly

exsquid 08-28-2018 19:42

South Africa's nuclear weapons program was dismantled by the white government prior to losing control to the ANC.

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Guymullins 08-29-2018 03:46

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Originally Posted by exsquid (Post 645457)
South Africa's nuclear weapons program was dismantled by the white government prior to losing control to the ANC.

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We had 8 bombs at the time they were dismantled. The white government made many big mistakes, but trusting the new mob with nuclear bombs was not one of them.

miclo18d 08-29-2018 05:25

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As Land Confiscations Loom, South Africa Rules 300,000 Gun-Owners Turn Over Their Weapons
Authored by Jose Nino via GunPowderMagazine.com,

South Africa is opening the door for tyranny.



The Constitutional Court of South Africa recently ruled that 300,000 gun owners must turn in their firearms.

This judgement came in response to the North Gauteng High Court’s ruling in 2017 which said Section 24 and Section 28 of the Firearm’s Control Act were unconstitutional.

A report from The Citizen explains what Section 24 and Section 28 entail:

“Section 24 of the Act requires that any person who seeks to renew a licence must do so 90 days before its expiry date Section 28 stipulates that if a firearm licence has been cancelled‚ the firearm must be disposed of or forfeited to the state. A 60-day time frame was placed on its disposal, which was to be done through a dealer.”

Now that the High Court’s initial ruling has been overturned, gun owners who failed to renew their firearms licenses must hand in their firearms to the nearest police station, where authorities will then proceed to destroy them.

Many naïve political observers will paint this event as a casual gun control scheme, but any astute student of politics will recognize that the floodgates are now open for further encroachments – not only on the gun rights of South Africans, but also on others facets of theirs lives.

A look at South Africa’s current political climate will give us an idea of the potential ramifications of this gun control scheme.

Political Trouble Brewing in South Africa?

Though South Africa witnessed rising levels of economic freedom shortly after Apartheid ended in 1994, the country has taken a more interventionist path to economic development in recent years.

This situation is becoming more pronounced with the South African National Assembly recently voting 241-83 to amend the South African constitution to allow for land expropriation without compensation.

The socialist-leaning African National Congress (ANC) and the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) parties are leading the charge for expropriation under the banner of fixing racial disparities that have supposedly remained intact since Apartheid’s conclusion.

While land confiscation has not been officially finalized, South Africans should worry about the direction their country is going.

And how does gun control fit into this equation?

Gun Control: A Tool for Tyranny

No matter how socialist apologists rationalize it, the redistributionist agenda the South African government is pursuing will not be implemented passively. Ultimately, it must be carried out by force.

The kind of force socialists seek is a monopolized kind, which extreme forms of gun control like gun confiscation help facilitate.

The history of gun confiscation is one of repeated cases of tyranny.

From countries such as Cuba to the Soviet Union, aspiring demagogues have used gun confiscation to disarm the populace. Logically, an unarmed populace will put up little resistance against their tyrannical acts.

In South Africa’s case, farmers and their workers are already suffering ongoing attacks against their property. One could only imagine what it would be like for these persecuted farmers once they are stripped of their right to self-defense.

For many Americans who have enjoyed historically unprecedented gun rights, South Africa’s gun control experience may seem distant and strange.

But make no mistake about it, South Africa’s latest flirtation with gun control is not based on good intentions, especially when considering the political climate the country is enduring.

South Africa should serve as a fair warning to Americans of the dangerous consequences gun control poses.
If there is truth to this article, it’s going start going fast!

I know you see what’s going on Guy, I hope everyone else in SA does too!

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Every Communist must grasp the truth, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party. Yet, having guns, we can create Party organizations, as witness the powerful Party organizations which the Eighth Route Army has created in northern China. We can also create cadres, create schools, create culture, create mass movements. Everything in Yenan has been created by having guns. All things grow out of the barrel of a gun. According to the Marxist theory of the state, the army is the chief component of state power. Whoever wants to seize and retain state power must have a strong army. Some people ridicule us as advocates of the "omnipotence of war". Yes, we are advocates of the omnipotence of revolutionary war; that is good, not bad, it is Marxist. The guns of the Russian Communist Party created socialism. We shall create a democratic republic. Experience in the class struggle in the era of imperialism teaches us that it is only by the power of the gun that the working class and the labouring masses can defeat the armed bourgeoisie and landlords; in this sense we may say that only with guns can the whole world be transformed. We are advocates of the abolition of war, we do not want war; but war can only be abolished through war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun.

— Selected Works of Mao Tse-tung, Vol. II, pp. 224-225[3]

Badger52 08-29-2018 06:24

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Originally Posted by miclo18d (Post 645466)
If there is truth to this article, it’s going start going fast!

There is mention in Lauren Southern's documentary "Farmlands" of people who don't already have firearms or a permit (and certainly wouldn't be able to get one now) acquiring paint-ball equipment with pepper balls as a defense mechanism. Forgetting the, at times, melodramatic narration moments, it might be worth a view (before the hosting service pulls it for being Wacissss).

https://www.xxxxxxx.com/watch?time_c...&v=a_bDc7FfItk

Guymullins 08-30-2018 04:29

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Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 645467)
There is mention in Lauren Southern's documentary "Farmlands" of people who don't already have firearms or a permit (and certainly wouldn't be able to get one now) acquiring paint-ball equipment with pepper balls as a defense mechanism. Forgetting the, at times, melodramatic narration moments, it might be worth a view (before the hosting service pulls it for being Wacissss).

https://www.xxxxxxx.com/watch?time_c...&v=a_bDc7FfItk

Surprisingly, although the so-called government is trying their best to disarm the Whites, our constant challenges to their arbitrarily changing the law has resulted in a situation where it is very difficult for them to refuse a request for a gun license. The applicant has to jump through many hoops and obtain all sorts of qualifications and certificates, but once you do that you usually get what you apply for.
Furthermore, concealed carry is not a problem anywhere except in a few gun-free zones. These people who have had to surrender their firearms have been lax in renewing their licenses. Self-defence licenses are renewed every 5 years and sport or hunting weapons every ten years.
One simply has to remain awake and comply with all the red tape and you are OK.

Badger52 08-30-2018 05:11

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Originally Posted by Guymullins (Post 645492)
Surprisingly, although the so-called government is trying their best to disarm the Whites, our constant challenges to their arbitrarily changing the law has resulted in a situation where it is very difficult for them to refuse a request for a gun license. The applicant has to jump through many hoops and obtain all sorts of qualifications and certificates, but once you do that you usually get what you apply for.
Furthermore, concealed carry is not a problem anywhere except in a few gun-free zones. These people who have had to surrender their firearms have been lax in renewing their licenses. Self-defence licenses are renewed every 5 years and sport or hunting weapons every ten years.
One simply has to remain awake and comply with all the red tape and you are OK.

Thank you for that. As often happens there are 2 sides and then, further still, 2 sides to each side of the tale.

Scimitar 10-17-2018 06:53

Guy,

Looks like the King of the Zulu nation is the pragmatic type.
He's apparently backing the white farmers, as he doesn't want his people to starve.

I'm sure I speak for others here, that we'd value your on-the-ground read on this.

S

American Thinker Article

PRB 10-17-2018 09:35

I suspect his real motivation is his Tribal land.... the 'King' owns it basically and allows others to use it I understand...the tribal members.

He probably fears losing land, it would be his power base....if they can take others property why not his?


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