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tonyz 03-14-2017 14:56

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Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 625040)
I'd like to see "accessory sales" spike because a suppressor is an OTC item in a bubble-pak.

COSTCO should have handy 5 packs...everything else there is packed family size.

Team Sergeant 03-14-2017 15:02

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Originally Posted by tonyz (Post 625039)
One industry is gonna miss BHO...the gun salesman of the year...this is a good opportunity to buy. Complete article and graphs/charts at link below,

Crashing "Post-Obama Era" Gun Sales Lead To Remington Mass Layoffs

Tyler Durden's picture
by Tyler Durden
ZERO HEDGE
Mar 14, 2017 12:46 PM

As we noted last summer, the Obama administration’s constant gun control threats did little more than flood American homes with more guns as people looked to stockpile weapons ahead of anticipated new regulations. In fact, both of Obama's elections resulted in massive and unprecedented spikes in gun sales.

Meanwhile, Obama's presidency was a boon for the gun manufacturers whose revenue, profitability and stocks all soared during his presidency.

But while the constant threat of new regulations under Obama resulted in a massive full forward of gun demand and pushed gun stocks to all-time highs, the election of Trump, and thus the removal of those threats for at least the next 4-8 years, is having exactly the opposite effect.

If fact, Remington Outdoor just announced layoffs of 120 people at their upstate New York manufacturing facility due to sinking gun demand in the Trump era. Per the Wall Street Journal:

Meanwhile, other firearms makers, including American Outdoor Brands, formerly known as Smith & Wesson, say demand for weapons, particularly handguns, has been ebbing since Trump's election. Earlier this month the company posted disappointing sales and higher inventories and admitted to investors on their quarterly earnings call that business had slowed...all of which sent the stock into a downward spiral.

Meanwhile, Wedbush equity analyst James Hardiman expects FBI background checks, a good indicator of gun sales, to be down 10-15% in 2017.

<snip>

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...cturing-facili



Prediction was already made last year........ :munchin (Post #49)

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...t=51694&page=4

tonyz 03-14-2017 15:06

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 625045)
Prediction was already made last year........ :munchin (Post #49)

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...t=51694&page=4

Gotta love it !

tonyz 04-10-2017 13:10

Just got back from the range - timely bump for an important thread.

Quote of the Day: In China, Gun Control Is About Government Control
The Truth About Guns
Dan Zimmerman
April 10, 2017

“The Chinese government took away people’s guns to prevent them rising up. Do you think they would be able to demolish peoples’ homes if they hadn’t?”- Renin University sociologist Zhou Xiaozheng in In gun-taboo China, tourism to U.S. firing ranges grows [via usatoday.com]

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nment-control/

tonyz 04-21-2017 07:20

"Free men do not ask permission to bear arms."
 
TS and many others posted in another thread about the goings on in Venezuela - the short article below ties the actions of those Statist/communist thugs with an important reminder.

A lesson in Democracy from Venezuela
By Russ Vaughn
American Thinker
April 21, 2017

The socialist government of Venezuela has just provided American gun owners with an excellent lesson in why it is of paramount importance never to let the government take our guns. Back in 1998, after four decades of the Latin American variety of democracy, military leader Hugo Chávez, a moderate leftist, was elected president. From that time until his death in 2013, he continued to take Venezuela further left, founding the United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV) in 2007, which has remained the ruling party to the present, inexorably moving the country into a quagmire of socialist poverty. Chávez died in 2013, but one of his last acts is now coming into full play in a way that provides our lesson.

In 2012, Chávez and PSUV began consolidating their hold on the Venezuelan people by banning guns in public places using the usual leftist excuse of reducing crime. Since that first gun control measure, those in charge have incrementally, to the point of recent total confiscation, taken away gun ownership rights until the only legally owned firearms are those of the military, the police, and favored security organizations, and they can obtain those only through government sources. The civilian populace of Socialist Venezuela has been effectively disarmed.

...unless your political views align with the socialist leadership, that is. Chávez's handpicked strongman successor, Nicolas Maduro, has decided to hand out military-grade weaponry to those civilians who agree with him politically – that is, his hard-left socialist supporters.

From an excellent accounting at Washington Free Beacon:

"A gun for every militiaman!" Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro said to uniformed militia members outside the presidential palace, Fox News reported on Tuesday. The Bolivarian militias, created by Maduro's predecessor Hugo Chavez, already number in the hundreds of thousands and are being used to supplement the regime's armed forces. Maduro is boosting the number of armed supporters in hopes of keeping control over the country from what he labels "imperialist aggression."

Therein lies your lesson, American gun owners: the American left constantly pushes for more gun control, never satisfied, slowly chiseling away at our 2nd Amendment rights, even to the point that a President Hillary admittedly would have considered the Australian buyback form of voluntary gun confiscation. With the American left moving ever more radically in that direction, who is to say that a future dedicated socialist president like Elizabeth Warren might not stack the Court and get the reading of the 2nd Amendment that the Democrats have long wanted: that the only legal guns in America, like Venezuela, are those in the hands of government?

And who's to say that an even more rabidly socialist successor to a President Warren might not decide that she feels her position threatened, like President Maduro, and decide to issue arms to her loyalists? Thanks to our recent election victory, we are now enjoying a respite from liberal gun grabs and fears of a liberal-dominated Supreme Court. However, as the Democrats have recently learned regarding national power, nothing is forever.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...venezuela.html

bblhead672 04-21-2017 07:30

No matter what successes liberty minded people have in elections and legislation, we must remember that the left will never rest in their quest to take away the 2nd Amendment rights of the American people.

The armed citizen is what stands between liberty and the globalists/leftists agenda of dominance.

Old Dog New Trick 04-27-2017 12:15

Tell us something we don't know!

US murders concentrated in 5 percent of counties - Fox News
https://apple.news/AHDeUV0vSSsS5BhQX2UBL6A

One of the most interesting findings in the report is that areas with the highest gun ownership rates have low murder rates.
"While many factors explain these concentrated murders, it is also striking that the counties with zero murders are the counties with by far the highest gun ownership rates," Lott said.

Sohei 04-27-2017 12:18

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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick (Post 626850)
Tell us something we don't know!

US murders concentrated in 5 percent of counties - Fox News
https://apple.news/AHDeUV0vSSsS5BhQX2UBL6A

One of the most interesting findings in the report is that areas with the highest gun ownership rates have low murder rates.
"While many factors explain these concentrated murders, it is also striking that the counties with zero murders are the counties with by far the highest gun ownership rates," Lott said.

Brother, you know you can't introduce logic into this equation....:p

Logic was old school, it went out when kids quit "getting" to wash the blackboards for doing well.

tonyz 04-27-2017 19:05

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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick (Post 626850)
Tell us something we don't know!

US murders concentrated in 5 percent of counties - Fox News
https://apple.news/AHDeUV0vSSsS5BhQX2UBL6A

One of the most interesting findings in the report is that areas with the highest gun ownership rates have low murder rates.
"While many factors explain these concentrated murders, it is also striking that the counties with zero murders are the counties with by far the highest gun ownership rates," Lott said.

Obama and Hillary supporters are undoubtably well represented in that deadly 5%...illegal immigrants? Sanctuary cities? Gangs? Illegal drugs? Gun control advocates? Community organizers? Statists? Globalists?

Contrast the leftist carnage with the counties experiencing essentially zero murders and possessing lotsa iron.

Maybe, and I'm going out on a limb here...it's not the pencil after all...but the writer...

mojaveman 04-27-2017 20:21

Just read that President Trump is going to visit the NRA convention in Atlanta tomorrow. Wish I were there just to hear the cheering and applause. ;)

Hand 04-28-2017 05:43

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Originally Posted by mojaveman (Post 626872)
Just read that President Trump is going to visit the NRA convention in Atlanta tomorrow. Wish I were there just to hear the cheering and applause. ;)

Not for naught, but if you dig a bit, you can usually find somebody livestreaming on either Periscope, Facebook Live, Youtube or Twitter.

pcfixer 05-24-2017 10:29

http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files...-v-california/

Issue: Whether the Second Amendment entitles ordinary, law-abiding citizens to carry handguns outside the home for self-defense in some manner, including concealed carry when open carry is forbidden by state law.


•Judge Neil Gorsuch now sits on the US Supreme Court. Possibly we could see a favorable 5/4 ruling!

Badger52 05-24-2017 13:25

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Originally Posted by pcfixer (Post 627925)
http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files...-v-california/

Issue: Whether the Second Amendment entitles ordinary, law-abiding citizens to carry handguns outside the home for self-defense in some manner, including concealed carry when open carry is forbidden by state law.


•Judge Neil Gorsuch now sits on the US Supreme Court. Possibly we could see a favorable 5/4 ruling!

There are some pretty weighty amici curiae briefs in there. For the barristers or SCOTUS watchers (looking at that link), is that part of their "process" to update once/week like that, and/or are meeting on it, or does it appear they are kicking the can down the road?

Hope it leaves a big ugly bruise on Kali when it lands.

Pericles 05-25-2017 14:03

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Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 627932)
There are some pretty weighty amici curiae briefs in there. For the barristers or SCOTUS watchers (looking at that link), is that part of their "process" to update once/week like that, and/or are meeting on it, or does it appear they are kicking the can down the road?

Hope it leaves a big ugly bruise on Kali when it lands.

Kicking the can down the road as two or more justices are trying to convince one or more to vote to hear the case. Need at least 4 justices to agree to put the case on the docket.

pcfixer 06-05-2017 08:36

4th Circuit En Banc- 2A doesn't protect assault rifles and magazines
 
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search....es/16a1074.htm

May 10 2017
Application (16A1074) granted by The Chief Justice extending the time to file until July 21, 2017.

https://www.ammoland.com/2017/03/4th...#axzz4j8fJm6ez

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The 4th Circuit en banc declared that “contrary to the now-vacated decision of our prior panel — the banned assault weapons and large-capacity magazines are not protected by the Second Amendment.
That is, we are convinced that the banned assault weapons and large-capacity magazines are among those arms that are ‘like’ ‘M-16 rifles’ — ‘weapons that are most useful in military service’ — which the Heller Court singled out as being beyond the Second Amendment’s reach…Put simply, we have no power to extend Second Amendment protection to the weapons of war that the Heller decision explicitly excluded from such coverage.” It further stated that the appropriate level of scrutiny to apply to such a challenge was intermediate scrutiny. In other words, the Court believes that the Second Amendment does not warrant the highest level of protection when analyzing a challenge to the constitutionality of a law it may infringe upon.
Many people have been asking “how will this affect me”? Remember at the beginning where I listed the states the 4th Circuit covers? This decision is only binding on lower federal courts in those states. Unfortunately, that means if a law restricting certain types of firearms is passed in any of those states and someone brings a challenge to the constitutionality of it under the Second Amendment, it has now opened the door for restrictions on what firearms the Second Amendment protects. If you reside in a different state, no courts are bound by the decision. However, they can cite to it as persuasive authority, which is problematic, especially if other courts begin to adopt the perverted logic employed by the 4th Circuit.
When we were reviewing the script for this episode, Jon asked me how we could fight such a terrible decision. The fact of the matter is, there isn’t really any way to do so, short of contacting your congressional representatives. As you probably know, we have a system of government that is designed to have checks and balances on one another. If you didn’t know that, don’t worry, I’ve included another School House Rock episode for you to enjoy.


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