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Seth
02-03-2006, 14:53
I offer this as a 'heads-up':

Move-on.org is launching a "nationwide" TV ad campaign. I'm pondering which networks/stations will air the ad, and the 'free' coverage they'll get from the 'news story' of the ad.

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MoveOn.org will launch a nationwide TV ad campaign on Monday accusing President Bush of breaking the law by wiretapping American citizens without
warrants. The Spot attemps to draw a parallel between Bush’s actions and those of former President Nixon.

The script follows:
TV :30 second


“Breaking the Law”
VIDEO: OPEN ON A CLASSIC BLACK AND WHITE PHOTO OF RICHARD NIXON.
AUDIO ANNOUNCER (VO): Claiming national security, Richard Nixon
illegally wiretapped innocent Americans.
VIDEO: OVER THE NIXON PHOTO, LAYER OR CORNER ARCHIVAL FOOTAGE OF
NIXON.
AUDIO: NIXON: When the President does it, that means that it is not
illegal.
VIDEO: BACK TO THE PICTURE OF NIXON, BUT AS THE ANNOUNCER
CONTINUES, NIXON’S FACE BEGINS TO CHANGE, ALMOST IMPERCEPTABLY AT
FIRST.
AUDIO ANNOUNCER (VO): We put a law in place to protect innocent
Americans, allowing the president to wiretap for national security —
but requiring court approval within days. George Bush is breaking that
law.
VIDEO: AS THE ANNOUNCER SPOKE, PICTURE OF NIXON SLOWLY MORPHED INTO
A COMPARABLE PICTURE OF BUSH. OVER THE NEXT LINE, THE PICTURE OF BUSH
QUICKLY MORPHS BACK INTO THE PICTURE OF NIXON, THEN THE PICTURE OF
BUSH. SUPER: “BUSH BROKE THE LAW”.
AUDIO ANNOUNCER (VO): Are you having trouble telling these men
apart? We had a special prosecutor then. We need a special prosecutor
now.

VIDEO: AT SCREEN BOTTOM, SUPER “PAID FOR BY MOVEON.ORG POLITICAL
ACTION, WWW.POLITICAL.MOVEON.ORG. NOT AUTHORIZED BY ANY CANDIDATE OR
CANDIDATE’S COMMITTEE. MOVEON.ORG POLITICAL ACTION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
THE CONTENT OF THIS ADVERTISEMENT.”
AUDIO ANNOUNCER (VO): MoveOn.org Political Action is responsible
for the content of this advertisement.

- sourced from press release

one-zero
02-03-2006, 15:10
Expect to see more of this and variations on the theme as 2006 elections approach. Bottom line is those who already drink the Kool-aid don't care what the facts are...

rubberneck
02-03-2006, 17:42
Good for them. IMHO MoveOn.org=masters of miscalculation. The BS they spout plays to 25% of the electorate. The remaining 75% will ikely be turned off by their antics.

Gypsy
02-03-2006, 19:39
Uh huh. And then there's this....why am I not surprised.

http://www.townhall.com/news/ap/online/gov/other/D8EPDUQO3.html

Lawyers Question Evidence in Terror Case
Dec 29 2005

By TONI LOCY
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON

Lawyers for an Islamic scholar, a Fort Lauderdale computer programmer and an Ohio trucker want federal judges to determine whether evidence used against their clients was gathered by a secret domestic spying program.

Jonathan Turley, a George Washington University law professor, said Wednesday there "seems to be a great likelihood" that Ali al-Timimi, a northern Virginia Islamic cleric convicted for exhorting followers after the Sept. 11 attacks to wage war against U.S. troops overseas, was "subject to this operation."

Attorney Kenneth Swartz of Miami also said he wants to know whether any evidence was gathered by the National Security Agency without a warrant and used to convince a secret court to authorize six years of wiretaps of his client, Adham Amin Hassoun.

Late Wednesday, attorney David Smith said he also will incorporate the NSA wiretaps into his appeal on behalf of Iyman Faris, a truck driver convicted of plotting to destroy the Brooklyn Bridge. At his sentencing hearing, prosecutors acknowledged that federal agents were led to Faris by a telephone call intercepted in another investigation.

Last month, Hassoun and Jose Padilla, a U.S. citizen held for nearly four years as an "enemy combatant," were charged with raising money to support violent Islamic fighters outside the United States.


President Bush has acknowledged that within days of the Sept. 11 attacks he authorized the NSA to conduct warrantless intercepts of conversations between people in the United States and others abroad who had suspected ties to al-Qaida or its affiliates.

In doing so, the administration bypassed the nearly 30-year-old secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court established to oversee the government's handling of espionage and terrorism investigations.

Turley already has appealed the case to the Richmond-based 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, asking that al-Timimi's conviction and life sentence be overturned. Turley argued that the prosecution was a violation of al-Timimi's free speech rights. His conviction was based on statements he made at a dinner days after the Sept. 11 attacks at which he urged several young Muslim men to join the Taliban and fight U.S. troops overseas.

Al-Timimi's lawyer said he recently has contacted federal prosecutors in Alexandria, Va., where a jury convicted al-Timimi in April, seeking their cooperation in asking the appeals court to return the case to U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema. She presided over al-Timimi's monthlong trial.

Brinkema could determine whether NSA-gathered evidence was used against al-Timimi, without the court being told, Turley said. She also could press the government to reveal whether it withheld evidence gathered by the NSA that could have helped al-Timimi's defense, he said.

If prosecutors decline to go along, Turley said, he will file a request next week asking the appeals court to send the case back to Brinkema.

Prosecutors probably did not know about the domestic spying program, Turley said. "It's possible that prosecutors had no idea of the origin of this evidence."

In Hassoun's case, the FISA court was not bypassed. The secret court approved wiretaps of Hassoun from 1994 to 2000, Swartz said.

Before the NSA spying program's existence was revealed, Swartz said, he had planned to challenge the legality of the FISA wiretaps. He said his challenge, to be filed in the next week or two, also will ask a federal judge in Miami to determine whether the FISA court was misled with evidence that it had not been told had been gathered secretly by the NSA.

Faris, 36, pleaded guilty in 2003 to conspiracy and aiding and abetting terrorism, and was sentenced to 20 years in prison. Prosecutors cited incriminating statements he made under questioning by federal agents.

"If all I had was the NSA intercept issue, I don't think I'd be able to get Faris' conviction overturned," Smith, Faris' appellate lawyer, said.

The appeal will be based an argument that Faris had ineffective counsel during the trial phase, grounds made stronger by the NSA revelations, said Smith. He said that Faris' trial lawyer never asked prosecutors for information on any wiretaps in the case.

White House spokesman Trent Duffy said Wednesday that the administration would not comment on pending cases. "I don't think it should serve as any surprise that defense attorneys are looking for ways to represent their clients," he said. "That's what defense attorneys do."

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(Associated Press Writer Joe Danborn in Columbus, Ohio, contributed to this report.)

Goggles Pizano
02-04-2006, 09:48
Funny how the most quoted legal "expert" lately is Johnathan Turley. "The President is bad, the President lied!" UGH! Of course Mr. Turley, and when a bomb goes off destroying your city and killing hundreds of thousands do we expect to see you on television proclaiming "WHY DID THE PRESIDENT NOT USE THE POWERS AVAILABLE TO HIM TO STOP THIS INSANITY!!!"? Yeah, I thought so...:mad:

QRQ 30
02-04-2006, 11:34
Folks, when we start talking about intelligence operations we are nearly always wrong. This is a highly technical area of operations. A good source is readings on the Code Wars during WWII.

If an Intelligence agency has a good source they will not in any way disclose or even defend it. If they are compromised they cease sending opertational traffic over the system but will commence sending misleading info. Unless you are the intended recipient you will never know. The Soviets had our codes for many years during the cold war before we finally discovered so. There is no telling how much damage was done.

If the terrorists were communicating openly over cell phones, it is doubtful they are now or if they are you cannot trust the intel as it may be intentionally false.