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Kyobanim
01-22-2006, 07:58
I found this editorial on another unrelated site written in 2004. K

Facts
- Newton, Massachusetts had a population of about 83,000 and had 0 murders.
- Camden, New Jersey had a population of about 80,000, about the same as Newton, and had 49 murders.
- United States had about 160,000 troops in Iraq and the military had about 700 hostile fire deaths in Iraq.

Since the Iraq troop strength is about twice the population of Camden or Newton, let us assume the hostile fire deaths for 2004 for 80,000 troops would have been about half the deaths for 160,000 troops, or 350 deaths.

Therefore, a person living in Camden, New Jersey would be 7 times more likely to die as a soldier in the Iraq War, but would 49 times more likely to die as a person living in Newton, Massachusetts.

Soldiers know they may have to go to war, that they may have to fight and kill the enemy, that the enemy may try to kill them, and that they may die in war. United States citizens living in the United States believe they should be able to live peaceful lives without having to fight for their lives or being killed by other citizens.

Opponents of the Iraq War say that waging the war is not worth the number of United States citizens being killed. Therefore, they say the Bush administration should withdraw our citizens from Iraq.

It is outrageous that the Bush administration continues to support Camden, New Jersey; the city is not worth the number of United States citizens being killed there. Therefore, we should withdraw our citizens from Camden immediately.

Pete
01-26-2006, 11:53
It's hard to argue with his logic.

But to be fair he was only counting US deaths not everybody (good & bad).

It would be interesting to pull a blue state geographic area similar in size and population to Iraq and re-run the numbers.:D

Pete

Airbornelawyer
01-26-2006, 15:52
It is actually easy to argue with his logic for the very reason you cite: it is apples and oranges, a false analogy, to compare one slice of military casualties to all homicides.

Besides U.S. military casualties, you would need to add in Iraqi and coalition casualties, terrorist/insurgent casualties, civilian casualties of military action and civilian homicides of non-military causes. Somehow I suspect Iraq would turn out to be a little more violent than Newton or Camden.