View Full Version : Sen. Clinton; Lack of Body Armor 'Unforgivable'
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/print?id=1489733
Evidently the two "two for one administrations" have been forgotten by her, or she'd remember the armor and AC130's request refused during Somalia. For that matter that she and her husband had eight years themselves to upgrade body armor and vehicles.
Her posturing is not worth commenting on.
Oh, shit, I just did.
If I thought she (or her husband) truly cared I might be impressed.
Not really, as has been said before it's all posturing.
aricbcool
01-11-2006, 15:40
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/print?id=1489733
Evidently the two "two for one administrations" have been forgotten by her, or she'd remember the armor and AC130's request refused during Somalia. For that matter that she and her husband had eight years themselves to upgrade body armor and vehicles.
Hopefully her opponents will be smart enough to bring that up once the campaign starts.
--Aric
tyrsnbdr
01-11-2006, 16:28
Hopefully her opponents will be smart enough to bring that up once the campaign starts.
--Aric
This is just another step in her long prepared and thought out strategy to make her look more centrist. It is easy to see if you look for it, but will the swing voters see her for what she is?
This from the same lady who did not want military uniforms in the White House.
Warrior-Mentor
01-11-2006, 19:50
Easy to point fingers retroactively....
Where was she BEFORE the conflict to help the situation...
NousDefionsDoc
01-11-2006, 20:07
Throw out the first pitch.
any bets as to what McCain's next statement will look like?
The response from Army and USMC.
msnbc.msn.com/id/10808409/
msnbc.msn.com/id/10813095/
Two organizations come to mind; the SOWF and the ROTC Association.
:boohoo
I believe the Clinton administration policy was that you don't need body armor if you run away fast enough (and you can run faster without it).
Funny. When I saw the article I focused on the body armor bit rather than who said it. It has been bandied about since the first day of OIF.
The troops went into OIF with the best that was available at THAT TIME. As for the armor itself, I haven't heard many complaints from the troops other than trying to put on 40 lbs of ceramics, in 100+ degree weather and running up and down the scenic mountains of the area. Some of the critics ought to try it. We had ceramic armored vests in RVN and used them for seat cushions.
Bill Harsey
01-12-2006, 10:16
Didn't the clintons have about eight years to make body armor better?
We had ceramic armored vests in RVN and used them for seat cushions.
I cut the plates out of mine, way to D&^% heavy and hot. I liked the padded shoulders, kept the pack straps from cutting into my shoulders.
I heard there is a new plate, a blend of aluminum and ?? suppose to be lighter.
Personally most of this talk is to add to the anti USA/Military banter in the media. Clintoon had 8 years to improve our military but only deminished our military capabilites to the joy of our enemies.
tyrsnbdr
01-12-2006, 10:37
Funny. When I saw the article I focused on the body armor bit rather than who said it. It has been bandied about since the first day of OIF.
The troops went into OIF with the best that was available at THAT TIME. As for the armor itself, I haven't heard many complaints from the troops other than trying to put on 40 lbs of ceramics, in 100+ degree weather and running up and down the scenic mountains of the area. Some of the critics ought to try it. We had ceramic armored vests in RVN and used them for seat cushions.
The Surgeon General is finding out that more soldiers are dieing from head injuries than any other time in history. That’s because soldiers that use to die from torso wounds are now surviving.
VelociMorte
01-12-2006, 14:05
I guess this stupid cow thinks there's some magical weightless bullet-stopping force-field being inexplicably withheld from the troops!
The Surgeon General is finding out that more soldiers are dieing from head injuries than any other time in history. That’s because soldiers that use to die from torso wounds are now surviving.
You may also find a larger number of back, spinal and hip injuries due to the armor.
The game of "smash/protect" is never ending. They'll just get a bigger hammer, or as in the early days of warfare, a bigger rock.
Let the whiners put on a full suit of body armor, ala Empire Storm Troopers and then sit on a couple if 122 mm rounds as they are detonated and check out the protection. :lifter :D
NousDefionsDoc
01-12-2006, 20:42
Thursday, January 5, 2006 3:54 PM
Clinton fundraising group fined for underreporting spendings
(Washington - AP) — A campaign fundraising group for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton will be fined 35,000 dollars for underreporting thousands of dollars spent on a swanky Hollywood fundraiser in 2000.
Federal investigators found that New York Senate 2000 failed to report nearly 722- thousand dollars spent on the star-studded gala to boost the former first lady's Senate campaign.
Peter F. Paul — who bankrolled the fundraiser — filed the initial complaint leading to the investigation. Today he provided a copy of a signed agreement between New York Senate 2000 and the Federal Election Commission.
The three-time convicted felon calls the fine somewhat vindicating. He's also suing the Clintons under claims that he was led to believe the former president would work for him in a private business venture.
(Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
NousDefionsDoc
01-14-2006, 12:33
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004280.htm
WHERE WAS HILLARY?
By Michelle Malkin · January 13, 2006 03:23 PM
On Tuesday, Hillary Clinton appeared on Good Morning America to lambaste the Bush admininstration for not caring about troops who need more body armor. She demanded an investigation.
On Wednesday, Senate Armed Service Committee chairman John Warner did exactly that.
But Hillary didn't bother to show up. Via the Washington Times:
"Senator Clinton had a long planned day of events with her constituents in New York and wasn't able to attend the short-notice briefing attended by the chairman and two members of the minority," Hillary spokesman Philippe Reines told the Washington Times.
Goggles Pizano
01-14-2006, 12:48
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004280.htm
WHERE WAS HILLARY?
By Michelle Malkin · January 13, 2006 03:23 PM
On Tuesday, Hillary Clinton appeared on Good Morning America to lambaste the Bush admininstration for not caring about troops who need more body armor. She demanded an investigation.
On Wednesday, Senate Armed Service Committee chairman John Warner did exactly that.
But Hillary didn't bother to show up. Via the Washington Times:
"Senator Clinton had a long planned day of events with her constituents in New York and wasn't able to attend the short-notice briefing attended by the chairman and two members of the minority," Hillary spokesman Philippe Reines told the Washington Times.
There is a surprise.:rolleyes: