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blackkn
01-02-2006, 21:11
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Kerry Positioned for '08 White House Bid By ANDREW MIGA, Associated Press Writer
Mon Jan 2, 9:58 AM ET



WASHINGTON - It's almost as if Sen. John Kerry never stopped running for president. He still jets across the country, raising millions of dollars and rallying Democrats. He still stalks the TV news show circuit, scolding President Bush at every turn.

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His campaign Web site boasts of an online army of 3 million supporters.

The Massachusetts Democrat, defeated by Bush in 2004, insists it is far too early to talk about the 2008 race, but some analysts assume he has already positioning himself for another shot at the White House.

"Obviously, Kerry has all but said he wants another crack at the thing," said Neal Thigpen, a political science professor at South Carolina's Francis Marion University. "He's going to make a second try."

While most losing presidential nominees quickly fade into the political landscape, Kerry has worked hard at maintaining a high public profile.

"He's continuing the fight he began in 2004," said Kerry spokesman David Wade. "He wants to make it very clear he's a fighter who is going to continue to fight for his agenda."

Borrowing a page from Republican Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record)'s 2000 postelection playbook, Kerry has kept much of his presidential political organization intact. He has also used his fundraising prowess to aid Democrats across the country, collecting chits that could be called if he seeks the party's White House nomination.

"He believes in his heart and soul that he came just a whisker away from being president," said Ronald Kaufman, a veteran GOP operative with Massachusetts roots.

Traveling extensively since his 2004 loss, Kerry generated nearly $5.3 million for dozens of Democratic candidates, state parties and charitable causes, according to aides.

He gave more than $200,000 to help Washington state Democrats prevail in Christine Gregoire's gubernatorial recount.

Kerry has expanded his campaign's e-mail supporter list, a vital organizing tool if he runs again. He has bought TV and newspaper ads promoting pet issues such as children's health care and his opposition to oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. He also reunited several members of his campaign policy team.

"No other past presidential candidate, with the exception of McCain, has done what Kerry has done in terms of converting his presidential campaign into a grass-roots political and legislative operation," said Wade. "He's dedicated to electing Democrats."

Despite such political spadework, Kerry can expect an uphill fight in 2008.

"He is going to have a difficult time overcoming his last campaign and explaining to the party regulars how and why he lost," said Dan Payne, a longtime Democratic consultant and former Kerry strategist. "There's only so much that the Democrats can blame on (senior Bush adviser) Karl Rove."

Kerry will also be bucking history. Adlai Stevenson was a two-time Democratic nominee nearly a half-century ago. He suffered back-to-back losses in 1952 and 1956 to Republican Dwight Eisenhower.

"Democrats are less prone historically to turn to a defeated nominee again," said political scientist Thigpen.

Richard Nixon won the Republican nomination in 1960, but lost the general election. He rebounded eight years later to capture the presidency.

In 2008, Democrats will probably be eager for a fresh face, said Thigpen, citing New York Sen. Hillary Clinton's lead in early polls and her ability to raise large sums of money.

"There's not a lot of fire out there for Kerry," he said.

Kerry's image as a Northeast liberal with fuzzy views on major issues like Iraq would make him vulnerable once more, said Kaufman, who was White House political director for Bush's father, President George H.W. Bush.

"I go to bed every night praying Kerry is the nominee again," he said.

:rolleyes:

moobob
01-02-2006, 22:13
I support a Kerry run in 2008. I'd love to see him fail... again.

QRQ 30
01-02-2006, 22:36
Nixon was an exception, but in general parties hesitate to nominate losers.:lifter

rubberneck
01-03-2006, 07:46
The first time worked so well for them I hope they try it again.

longrange1947
01-03-2006, 16:02
I'll bet he leaves his military service alone this time. :D

What would scare me is a choice between Kerry and McCain in the election :eek:

The Reaper
01-03-2006, 16:11
I'll bet he leaves his military service alone this time. :D

What would scare me is a choice between Kerry and McCain in the
election :eek:

Well, at least McCain was there long enough to prove his courage, regardless of what happened since.

TR

Kyobanim
01-03-2006, 19:12
I saw the title of this thread and thought he was bent over again.

Eagle5US
01-03-2006, 20:24
POS:mad:

Eagle

Gypsy
01-03-2006, 22:09
I'll bet he leaves his military service alone this time. :D



I'll bet the Swift Boat Vets won't. :D

Last thing I want to see again is him on a podium "reporting for duty" with his limp wristed salute. :rolleyes:

longrange1947
01-03-2006, 23:18
The Special Forces Viet Nam Vets Against Kerry had one hell of a web site as well. They took his own writings and used them to show he was lieing. I do believe that is why Kerry's campaign left them alone, as did the media. :munchin

CPTAUSRET
01-04-2006, 03:12
You guys know I saved his life, right?

It seemed like the right thing to do at the time.

Terry

longrange1947
01-04-2006, 06:33
You guys know I saved his life, right?

It seemed like the right thing to do at the time.

Terry

I think we can forgive a temperary lapse in judgement................. at the time. :D

The Reaper
01-04-2006, 08:33
You guys know I saved his life, right?

It seemed like the right thing to do at the time.

Terry

Would you do it today, knowing what you know now?:D

TR

CPTAUSRET
01-04-2006, 11:02
I think we can forgive a temperary lapse in judgement................. at the time. :D


Thank you!:)

CPTAUSRET
01-04-2006, 11:07
Would you do it today, knowing what you know now?:D

TR


I am presuming this is at least somewhat "Tongue in cheek".

He wasn't alone, he probably had some good people with him.

And I'd still hang my ass out for an American.

longrange1947
01-04-2006, 15:10
Havn't seen it here, but have you guys read Snopes on Kerry's awards? They call it an urban legend that he did not earn his awards. Of course, they only quote him, his books, his citations, and his butt boy that brown nosed him during the campaign.

The Naval Officer that called BS on them and everyone else they basically call liars.

This brings everything else they call a legend into question I think. :munchin

Terry, of course we forgive you! You were saving an American.

A lib, pinko, piece of crap he may be, but he is an American. :(

aricbcool
01-04-2006, 19:11
Terry, of course we forgive you! You were saving an American.

A lib, pinko, piece of crap he may be, but he is an American. :(

Besides, it's not like he won. :D

--Aric

Ambush Master
01-04-2006, 20:10
Havn't seen it here, but have you guys read Snopes on Kerry's awards? They call it an urban legend that he did not earn his awards. Of course, they only quote him, his books, his citations, and his butt boy that brown nosed him during the campaign.

The Naval Officer that called BS on them and everyone else they basically call liars.

This brings everything else they call a legend into question I think. :munchin
:(

I'm willing to bet that he had "An Other Than Honorable Discharge" untill his buddy jimmy pardoned him!!!

I also would bet that the Swifties and others have had the time and the interest to pursue FOIA for all of his "public" records!!!

HAWWAS

Later
Martin

CRad
01-06-2006, 11:29
And I'd still hang my ass out for an American.

Right there is why Kerry lost, in my opinion. Terry made a decision to save a life. All these years later when asked if he'd do it again he says yes with no hesitation and he clearly states why. Kerry can't do that to save his soul.

It doesn't matter whether he earned his medals or not. So what if he did? He earned them during circumstances that are unlikely to be repeated as a Senator or President. He acted without the chance to rethink his decision.

As a Senator he acted then when given a chance to rethink he changed his mind. Then, the guy couldn't say why he voted for the what was it $87 billion before he voted against it. Furthermore, he couldn't say why he voted against it.

Give me something - "At first read the bill looked good. It provided adequatete temporary funding for our soldiers; however, upon further examination essential equipment was not being factored in. I voted against the final version of the bill because it was under funded."

The idiot cannot articulate his reasons for anything in a way that makes any sense. Kerry never even gave good reason for wanting to be president. Hell, Zac wants to be president and he can give you his reasons 100 times better than Kerry.

longrange1947
01-06-2006, 14:08
I'm willing to bet that he had "An Other Than Honorable Discharge" untill his buddy jimmy pardoned him!!!

I also would bet that the Swifties and others have had the time and the interest to pursue FOIA for all of his "public" records!!!

HAWWAS

Later
Martin

Well, since his honorable was dated much later then his end of service......

kwu
01-12-2006, 13:40
feel like there's a good story behind your post. if you don't mind a question from a noob, what was the situation?

kwu
01-12-2006, 14:11
of you rescuing Kerry, I mean