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My son begins Robin Sage this weekend. He's a 20 year-old 18 X candidate who has successfully completed the other SFQC training modules. He's under the "older" training schedule so will not learn his language school until (and if)he succesfully completes Robin Sage. I've read most anything I can on the Robin Sage training exercise. Just wondering if any of QP's on board would share any non-classified stories or memories of Robin Sage. Again, thanks to all of you have served or are serving our country. I'm hopeful that one day my son may too bear title: Quiet Professional. God Bless!
NousDefionsDoc
10-12-2005, 14:59
I remember running through the woods a lot with a horde of those damn CAPs from the 82nd Airplane Gang hot on heels.
I remember running through the woods a lot with a horde of those damn CAPs from the 82nd Airplane Gang hot on heels.
As a student our G band had a fairly even mix of SF guys and coscomites. We got flushed out of our base camp by a platoon + from the 82nd. As all the confusion started a couple of the Gs (team guys) grabed about four of us students and yelled "follow us". The six of us twisted and turned through the woods and after a while we stopped and sat down. The two SF guys informed us students that "This was the place". Within a few hours most of the students and SF Gs showed up. The coscomites got bagged almost to a man.
I was able to return the favor years later when our team was detailed to be Gs, all in the same band. Almost in the same way.
Students are so focused on the school solution and passing that they lose a bit of the feeling of whats going on around them. That old SA thing again.
I remember running through the woods a lot with a horde of those damn CAPs from the 82nd Airplane Gang hot on heels.
Blanks don't kill anybody.
In the 70s and 80s it was quite common for a number of troopers in the 82nd to drop weapons at the first contact with students and Gs during Robin Sage and give chase. It would develope into a foot race and many arguments.
Site selection is very important when all you have is blanks. Working wire fences, ditches and streams into your plans can greatly improve the "kill zone" and impede the bad guys. A squad of Infantry who drops their weapons and charges into your force looks real funny hung up on a three strand barbed wire fence. And after that one they were real slow in chasing us anywhere at night.:cool:
If you know where they are at, fences are your friends.
Just wondering if any of QP's on board would share any non-classified stories or memories of Robin Sage.
I remember the food poisoning I acquired from the communal pot of mystery goulash in the G-base. :(
Ambush Master
10-13-2005, 14:02
Jumping in at midnight from a 141 and all of us in the trees. Some all night !!
Launching a Star Cluster horizontally, skipping it down the road and onto the Bridge that the 82nd was defending, where it did it's Star Cluster Thing !!!:D
Also sleeping up in the rafters of the tobacco drying barns.
Blanks don't kill anybody.
In the 70s and 80s it was quite common for a number of troopers in the 82nd to drop weapons at the first contact with students and Gs during Robin Sage and give chase. It would develope into a foot race and many arguments.
Site selection is very important when all you have is blanks. Working wire fences, ditches and streams into your plans can greatly improve the "kill zone" and impede the bad guys. A squad of Infantry who drops their weapons and charges into your force looks real funny hung up on a three strand barbed wire fence. And after that one they were real slow in chasing us anywhere at night.:cool:
If you know where they are at, fences are your friends.
An exercise where I was involved, we are doing a very close recce of an enemy location. One guard was slumped & and not paying much attention, behind a tree to my left sector and I had initially missed him going forward.
Once we were retreating from the particular direction, he popped up, with his jacked hood covering his head.
His rifle was against the tree and the sight of three camoed and armed men training their weapons on him, I think he was startled a bit.
He looked at his weapon, at us, back at his weapon....and went for it. After a few bursts of blanks, we were well away before they got anyone mobilized.
aricbcool
10-13-2005, 16:57
The coscomites got bagged almost to a man.
Pardon me if I am intruding, but what is a "coscomite"?
Respectfully,
Aric
The Reaper
10-13-2005, 17:15
Pardon me if I am intruding, but what is a "coscomite"?
Respectfully,
Aric
Cosmonite (cos-mo-nit) n. - 1. Dirty leg soldier assigned to 1st COSCOM. Frequently assigned to role play as G's during Robin Sage. 2. Any REMF. (see Pogue).
TR
aricbcool
10-13-2005, 17:21
Cosmonite (cos-mo-nit) n. - 1. Dirty leg soldier assigned to 1st COSCOM. Frequently assigned to role play as G's during Robin Sage. 2. Any REMF. (see Pogue).
TR
Nice. :D
Thanks TR.
--Aric
Pardon me if I am intruding, but what is a "coscomite"?
Respectfully,
Aric
That would be a member of Corps Support Commant (COSCOM) of which there was none in '63. In fact there was no "Robin Sage" for the EM. It was the FTX for the Officers in the SFOC, not SFQC. There was no SFQC as such. I believe our FTX's were named Cherokee Trail and Gobbler's Woods (Knob) I'm a big help aren't I.:D
We enlisted commo swine generally got to go on two or three FTX's. We had our own commo FTX, the Branch final FYX and we "got" to support the Officers in their FTX.
Cosmonite (cos-mo-nit) n. - 1. Dirty leg soldier assigned to 1st COSCOM. Frequently assigned to role play as G's during Robin Sage. 2. Any REMF. (see Pogue).
TR
LOL. Nice work TR.
aricbcool
10-13-2005, 17:33
I'm a big help aren't I.:D
Actually yes. It's fascinating to see the progression that the training pipeline has made over the years. Thanks for the response.
--Aric
Thanks to all the QP's who have responded - it's some great information. I remember picking up my 18 X son from the airport four days after SERE and he was thin, his face was a mess and he had the "deer in the headlights" look which lasted for about a week. Does Robin Sage produce a similar reaction? Just curious. It's going to be a hard couple more weeks waiting to hear from him and find out if he passed Robin Sage. Thanks for all the responses. This is a great site.
Thanks to all the QP's who have responded - it's some great information. I remember picking up my 18 X son from the airport four days after SERE and he was thin, his face was a mess and he had the "deer in the headlights" look which lasted for about a week. Does Robin Sage produce a similar reaction? Just curious. It's going to be a hard couple more weeks waiting to hear from him and find out if he passed Robin Sage. Thanks for all the responses. This is a great site.
It's hardly the same emotional and humbling experience as SERE. Take him to Texas Roadhouse, buy him a beer, and enjoy his stories!
It's hardly the same emotional and humbling experience as SERE. Take him to Texas Roadhouse, buy him a beer, and enjoy his stories!
longtab- glad to hear that information from you. I'm not familiar with the Texas Roadhouse. I assume it's a bar in Fort Bragg? We have not been to Bragg yet, only to Ft. Benning for our son's Turning of the Blue ceremony. I look forward to seeing my son again and hearing his stories. In the meantime, I appreciate all of the QP such as you who are willing to share information with Dads like me. Take care.
... I'm not familiar with the Texas Roadhouse. I assume it's a bar in Fort Bragg?
The Texas Roadhouse is one of the better places to get a steak and cold beer in Fayetteville. While everybody has their place of choice to eat, it's mine.
It's on Sycamore Dairy Road extension between Mcpherson Church road and the All American Expressway.
The place fills up quickly after 5:10PM. You get the fastest seating at about 4:50-5:00PM. After that it's standing room only and up to a 30 minute wait.
I really must add an addendum on the G force from COSCOM. At the time I had any dealings with Robin Sage the G Force was a detail from post units.
You had two types of Gs - those that hated the detail and being in the field - and those that loved it and volunteered for it to get out of the BS at main post.
The repeat Gs came out every chance they got. They were very good in the field, knew "the game" very well and loved being Gs. They also knew the students were under the gun for grades and the 82nd troops got "good deals" for running down the students. If a small patrol was jumped they would throw themselves into the 82nd allowing the students to escape.
The deadbeats would sit down and moan every chance they got.
There is a trick to whipping a bunch of unmotivated coscomite type Gs into a band of whup-ass Gs. Takes a little more work and a few mind games but the transformation can be remarkable. The Remington Raiders ride again. Thats Remington as in typewriter.
In conjunction with another thread I always loved it when I heard the G-Chief had the TL taken out and shot because he was a Richard Head. This was at the direction of the Umpire. You don't have to go native but I believe to "establish rapport" was the next step after making contact.:D :
Fantastic posts; really enjoy reading them--
In conjunction with another thread I always loved it when I heard the G-Chief had the TL taken out and shot because he was a Richard Head. hell, our G-chief was named Rikard Kopf...:eek:
The Reaper
10-27-2005, 21:41
Colonel Jack Meoff.
It was pronounced, "May Hoff".
And you better not laugh when you said it.
TR
NousDefionsDoc
10-28-2005, 06:58
I was a G Chief once. I got the impression the TL didn't care much for me. WO Ian C was the Team Sergeant. One of his troops KIAd a box turtle. Seems they didn't realize that that particular species holds a very special place in the hearts of PL nationals. Ian came up with some rather innovative ways of expressing his remorse. The funeral was beautiful - full military honors. I thought them charging over the hill screaming "Viva La Tortuga" at the top of their lungs was a nice touch as well...
Hello All,
I just received a call from my son from somewhere in Pineland. He successfully passed the Robin Sage portion of the pipeline should return to Ft. Bragg on Monday. He thinks he will find out his language on Tuesday. Note to the other dads on the forum: I don't have much information yet on his Robin Sage experience as we didn't have much time to talk. He did say that the peer review was very tough and he almost did not make it based on that. Don't have anymore particulars but my son is sometimes a little too serious and intense so that may be part of it. I'll follow up again once we learn his language. Thanks for the support of the QP and others on the PS forum.
Michael
My G-chief was J. Anderson from 7th SFG. He was a proud Texan. Every morning he raised the Texas flag over the G-Base and made us all sing the Texas national Anthem.
CoLawman
10-29-2005, 16:22
Congratulations 18XDad and continued good fortune to your son!
Way to go 18XDad! The pride of a father runs deep.
Congradulations 18x dad. I think you'll find your son's experience in Robin Sage was much different than phase II etc.
CoLawman
02-12-2006, 10:20
By my calculations, based on Tom Clancy's book,.........my son should have parachuted or helicoptered into Pineland early this AM. This is like knowing your son is competing at the State Wrestling tournament, or the BIG football game.........unable to watch! How miserable!:(
Firebeef
02-12-2006, 12:21
Keepin him in my thoughts as well K. I'm sure he's doin fine...albeit tired, pissed off and hungry. He'll do fine!
D
Co Lawman,
I know your anxiety level is running high. I was very emotional when I got the call from our son that he had passed Robin Sage. It's great to hear that your son is continuing toward his goal. Based on what I've heard of him, he will successfully complete Robin Sage. At this point in the training pipeline it seems that the focus is on working to get our young men toward the goal and not so much weeding them out, though that still can and does happen.
My son is two months into his six month Korean Language School and I still have anxiety about that. He seems to be taking it all in stride but only time will tell.
Thinking positively now: when your son completes his training, when will he graduate? Has he already done the language training?
Take care and let us know the outcome.
With respect and admiration,
18 X Dad
Sometimes I wonder if the pipeline has a peripheral goal of preparing us parents for all the times ahead where our sons are going to be off somewhere doing important things and we won't be able to contact them to ask how they are doing.
aricbcool
02-13-2006, 17:30
My thoughts are with you CoLawman. I hope he passes with flying colors. :)
How long until you find out?
--Aric
CoLawman
02-14-2006, 09:14
Robin Sage is scheduled to end on the 26th of this month. He is then starting Arabic. Counting down the days.
Soft Target
02-20-2006, 17:57
I was in SFOC 78-1 and had the pleasure to winter in the Carolina wilderness. His G Chief name was Juajolote Gordo (you 7th SFGA guys can translate). Wally was an incredile role player (if he was doing that), he knew all the locals and really gave the students leaders a going over. Thanks, Wally!
My son begins Robin Sage this weekend. He's a 20 year-old 18 X candidate who has successfully completed the other SFQC training modules. He's under the "older" training schedule so will not learn his language school until (and if)he succesfully completes Robin Sage. I've read most anything I can on the Robin Sage training exercise. Just wondering if any of QP's on board would share any non-classified stories or memories of Robin Sage. Again, thanks to all of you have served or are serving our country. I'm hopeful that one day my son may too bear title: Quiet Professional. God Bless!
I did robin Sage in August somewhere near Troy. We had heat category 5 every day. We still trained but the G's that were in the base camp were allowed to lay up sorry and eat watermelons from a nearby watermelon patch all day. After about two days, we made sure the missions left the base camp early and all the gs went out! I also learned just how wild the summer thunderstorms can be here in NC. I was in a hammock about 50 feet from a longleaf pine that had the top blown off of it. I learned a new respect for lightning that day!
Your son is getting the best instruction from the best soldiers in the Army so he is in very capable hands. You should be very proud that your son decided to serve this country during a time of war and that he chose Special Forces.
Good Luck Sir!!
NousDefionsDoc
02-20-2006, 21:16
You should be very proud that your son decided to serve this country during a time of war and that he chose Special Forces.
And even prouder that Special Forces chose him. You raised him right.
CoLawman
02-27-2006, 11:45
Got the call this morning! :lifter The son is back from Robin Sage and sounded great. He stated that without a doubt it was the most effective training he had experienced to date. He was extremely impressed with the cadre and the exercises. He has not learned his Group assignment yet, but believes he might learn it before the week is out. Arabic starts next Monday. They get a four day weekend so he has his girlfriend flying in for the R&R.
Congratulations, that is awesome!
Thank you for raising him so well, and thank him from me for serving.
Martin
So happy to hear that your son passed and is continuing on the journey. Please tell him congrats from 18 X Dad. Look forward to hearing more updates.
Good news, thanks for sharing it CoLawman! Please pass along congrats to your son.
Congrats to your son on completing another step in the journey.
aricbcool
02-27-2006, 20:59
Congrats CoLawman!
--Aric
Leozinho
02-28-2006, 20:14
Colawman,
I have an idea who your son is. Big fellow, reddish blonde hair, from Colorado? (My guess is based on your handle and where the fellow I'm thinking of is from and his prior occupation.) If so, I was in the Echo course with him, and he's a very good guy.
I finished Sage on Monday as well. Great training. I'd do the last two weeks in the field again right now if given the chance just for the extra experience. (Though I'd prefer to skip the 24 hour, 135 lb ruck infil. We definately needed to rethink what we packed in.)
On the downside, manpower shortages meant some teams only had G's for a week. (In my team's case, we got G's on the second week.) On the plus side, some of our G's, when we finally got them, turned out to be rather special, which was intimidating at first but they ended up helping us out considerably and being great teachers. (And they stayed in role, unlike the G's from support units.)
There are some big changes with Sage, including one that's likely not to sit well with folks. I'd prefer not to say here in the open but will answer PMs from the appropriate persons.
Colawman,
Congrats to your son. What's next?
CoLawman
03-01-2006, 15:46
Thanks everyone!
Next stop Language school on Monday. Still no word on Group!
The Reaper
03-01-2006, 15:50
Thanks everyone!
Next stop Language school on Monday. Still no word on Group!
I'd say the language is a dead giveaway.
TR
Warrior-Mentor
03-01-2006, 16:24
Robin Sage is scheduled to end on the 26th of this month. He is then starting Arabic. Counting down the days.
Sounds to me like he's on his way to Ft Campbell (5th SFG)...with a chance of Bragg (3rd SFG)...
Sounds to me like he's on his way to Ft Campbell (5th SFG)...with a chance of Bragg (3rd SFG)...
10th SFG has priority on Arabic speakers right now, with another 50 slots just diverted to them.
I was a 2+/2 french speaker, but I volunteered for Arabic so I would get 3rd or 5th, and got sent to 10th anyways. :boohoo
I have been sitting at SWC for 6 months trying to get my assignment switched to 3rd or 5th.
The Dave
03-03-2006, 16:08
Congrats! And tell him "hath-an sae-dan" (my best transliteration). He got a fun language :D
Warrior-Mentor
03-03-2006, 17:34
Ref the title of this thread...
How about 12 out of 14 landing in the trees after a "Special Operations Wing" C-130 put us out?
The Reaper
03-03-2006, 17:40
That is why we don't do CARP.
The Air Force Motto: "The World is a Drop Zone". If you hit the ground they consider it a successful drop.
TR
Warrior-Mentor
03-05-2006, 15:58
The Air Forces doen't like the "Big Sky, Little Bullet" method of fire control,
yet they subscribe to the "Big Ground, Big DZ" Theory...go figure.
JM
Soft Target
03-06-2006, 08:07
I was in the Pope O'club with my late father-in-law, retired USAF and C46 driver on D-Day and later. Some conventional C130 guys were laughing about putting some airborne guys in the trees that morning. My father-in-law excused himself, with both his hips having just been replaced, and walked over to them. They followed him out to somewhere. He returned they didn't. I asked him what went on and he said "They now know the error of their ways." He was in his 70s.
CoLawman
03-08-2006, 20:38
Great story sir!
ObliqueApproach
03-09-2006, 09:58
...guys were laughing about putting some airborne guys in the trees that morning....
ST,
Good story, thanks!
Trees are neither fun nor funny!:mad:
I was in the Pope O'club with my late father-in-law, retired USAF and C46 driver on D-Day and later. Some conventional C130 guys were laughing about putting some airborne guys in the trees that morning. My father-in-law excused himself, with both his hips having just been replaced, and walked over to them. They followed him out to somewhere. He returned they didn't. I asked him what went on and he said "They now know the error of their ways." He was in his 70s.
Not trying to hijack this thread, but I just finished reading Beyond Band of Brothers by Dick Winters. After reading this book and the above quote, I am left with a profound sadness that this magnificent generation represented by these two gentlemen is almost gone. I hope we can live up to the standards they set.
18A2B19SFG
03-17-2006, 12:09
Overlord, Market Garden, et. al;… Incredible by any comparison. (PC theater as well!) A world truly at war, on a scale that I personally can only imagine, and humbly respect. 4 years (if you lived), sporatic letters, incremental progress and every mile hard fought. IMHO war on that scale and duration, given the historical context, may (hopefully) never occur again. (Bearing in mind all possibilities) I respect my place in the shadow of that era, with no presumption that 120days or less of combat (by official, or any standard) here and there, gives me any insight to the experience of WWII vets. It is “apples and oranges”, and all things being equal, Ken Miller (an 82nd D-Day Vet) expressed his bewilderment with the 21st century battlefield. Still, I always felt humbled to have WWII vets salute (my rank) as an officer, given my respect for what I can only imagine of their experience. Much like the first salute from any SGM or CSM. I did keep you awake at night, the determination to live up to the rank, and those salutes from men you could then only hope to aspire to.
Q course:
Robin Sage had only been “Robin Sage” a year or two when I went through what was then phase III for graduation. I was NG (19 SFG) and 2LT were allowed to attend SFAS/SFQC after IOBC. Then spend the next 2-3 years attached to one ODA or ODB, until what was then SFOC and an eventual slot with one of the ODAs. During Phase I, I was eager let anyone think I was enlisted rather than a 2LT. I’m not sure how it is now, but from 88-89 at least, you were lucky to have anyone from phase I & II with you during Phase III. I know I only passed from one Phase to the other because I worked on Peer support, and what I had “help” with in one skill, I gave it back in spades in another. Be assertive, decisive, but don’t argue or show un-warranted disrespect. Learn to convey your ideas convincingly, and compromise when possible. Your graded leadership role during Robin Sage could very well depend or rely on the one guy you’ve not liked and let him know it. A wise man “MIKE_MIKE” said, SFQC isn’t a position on a team. It’s a school, an evaluation, pass or fail. If you forget that you are a student in a class, your dumb ass will be right back here, and without sympathy.
He was right (of course), each Phase, from my observation, had one or more guys who were already tabbed in there mind, and failed the “technicality” of completing the course.
From what I hear, SFAS is much more of a psychological evaluation than it was in ’88. Then it was more AFPT 275 range and you would make it if you had solid basic skills. ARNG did send a lot of 20-22yo guys to SFSA/SFQC. At 23, I felt like a dumb kid who was just trying to follow the lead so to speak, but it worked. Don’t even go to SFAS without SOLID Land Nav skills. You won’t be lucky enough to follow someone every time. And stay off the roads.
The Reaper
03-17-2006, 12:15
18A2B19SFG:
Thanks for your comments.
Please fill in your profile and introduce yourself in the proper place.
TR
Jack Moroney (RIP)
03-17-2006, 15:47
[
He was right (of course), each Phase, from my observation, had one or more guys who were already tabbed in there mind, and failed the “technicality” of completing the course.
And stay off the roads.[/QUOTE]
You bring up a good point. When I was running the Special Forces Department we had folks who felt that because they had "been tested" and gotten through SFAS and other little hurdles in the course that they did not have to "follow the rules". One officer in particular was picked up on the roads during "Officer Stakes" and was recycled because of it. Now I knew this young Captain when he was an solid special forces NCO and it really bothered me that the standards to which he performed when we served together sort of went by the wayside. I don't know if he thought that because he was now an officer that he could sort of operate at a tempo that he saw fit and to which he had become accustomed in his previous assignments as an officer rather than meet course standards or what it was. When I told him he had two choices which included quiting or being recycled he was shocked. He brought in a couple of his contemporaries to support his case who all felt that they had been tested, and retested, and had measured up and that this was just one more test and "just when would the testing be finished"! You see as far as they were concerned they had already earned their "tab". To make a long story very short, the converstation was very one sided professional attitude adjustement session. At the conclusion of this "discussion" 7 very uncomfortable young Captains almost simultaneously had an epiphany. You see they realized the fact that this was in deed a school and that this testing was very forgiving in the fact that the only casualties for failure to adhere to mission type orders and exercise the level of integrity expected of officers that were going to operate without supervision would only be them-this time. They also realized that "testing" never really ends and that it was a whole lot easier to sew on that "tab" than to wear it. They also grasped that in the real world where they were going to be expected to operate without someone checking on whether or not they "followed the rules" their integrity, leadership, and professional lapses would cost the lives of their men and mission failure with all the consequences from their individual discomfort to the impact it might have on national security. The Q is not the goal it is the tool we all use to assess whether or not you have what it takes to truly function as a Special Forces soldier when the results of the tests are evaluated in terms of lives and mission success or failure and where recycling is terminal.
That is why we don't do CARP.
TR
Hey Now easy there TR,
Right around 76/77 the AF was playing with AWADS (Adverse Weather Air Delivery System). Just think Blind CARP in shitty weather.
They needed experienced jumps because of the special nature of the jumps so SF was tagged. The way it worked was when the weather got real shitty the phones would ring, companies assembled and off we would go to jump.
The oddball in all this was the CCT had two sets of teams working against themselves. One to help the planes to the DZ and the other trying to jam them off.
The problem for us jumpers was, "Yes, the world is a drop zone but you would like to know which way to start walking when you hit the ground." Generally you would come out of the fog, mist, rain just as you hit pine trees. And there you are. Standing all alone and having absolutely not idea where you where. It would take until noon to get people rounded up from a midnight jump.
The CCT would give the DZ party their best guess as to where the green light came on and they would get over in the area and drive up and down roads. The jumpers would listen for the sound of vehicles and move in that direction. If you hit a road stay on it.
I pulled both the ground and jumping side of that detail and it was a coin flip as to which was better.
NousDefionsDoc
03-17-2006, 17:16
I enjoyed the pleasure of jumping both CARP and AWADS.
Warrior-Mentor
03-17-2006, 17:57
Done both...can't say I enjoyed them.
Soft Target
03-18-2006, 07:25
VGMRS!!!!! Jumpmaster spotting.
VGMRS!!!!! Jumpmaster spotting.
I loved the air crews you could talk into an early green light during a jumpmaster spot. First jumper well before the tree line, second jumper got out on the tree line and third would be over the release point. I would be last out and well over the tree line when I jumped.
Short DZs are not that hard but you have to make sure the more experienced jumpers are at each end.
"They give you toggles for a reason, use them."
The Reaper
03-18-2006, 09:41
I loved the air crews you could talk into an early green light during a jumpmaster spot. First jumper well before the tree line, second jumper got out on the tree line and third would be over the release point. I would be last out and well over the tree line when I jumped.
Short DZs are not that hard but you have to make sure the more experienced jumpers are at each end.
"They give you toggles for a reason, use them."
You actually paid attention to the lights?:D
Not like they can drag you back in for failure to follow instructions or have to live with the consequences of a bad spot.
I always asked for the early green as well. We were going when the JM said GO and we weren't stopping till the last man in the stick cleared the door.
TR
You actually paid attention to the lights?:D
TR
I swear I never got out on a red light. I think there was a few times it was amber.:D
There was one ARTEP where the team leader JMed and jumped first. The TS was in the middle of the stick. Real small night time DZ and we were to assemble on him near the center of the DZ on the tree line. Commo guys were on either side of the TS because of the weight of their rucks.
I was to be last out and the Jr Eng was in front of me. The red light came on right as the TS exited. Everybody else kept going except him. He stopped just as he turned into the door. I didn't and he had a real poor body position as he exited. He also missed the DZ but I didn't.
He caught heck about toggle use and canopy control every jump after that.
Pete
Ambush Master
03-18-2006, 13:06
Ref the title of this thread...
How about 12 out of 14 landing in the trees after a "Special Operations Wing" C-130 put us out?
That is exactly what I was referring to. The CARP SUCKED!!!
Jumping in at midnight from a 141 and all of us in the trees. Some all night !!
Launching a Star Cluster horizontally, skipping it down the road and onto the Bridge that the 82nd was defending, where it did it's Star Cluster Thing !!!:D
Also sleeping up in the rafters of the tobacco drying barns.
I remember hitching a ride in a "Tom's Candy" truck. I broke my weapon down and put it into my ruck. In those days guys were getting "mugged" for their M16's way out in the sticks. Anyway, this guy pulls over and gives me about a 20 click ride plus all the oatmeal pies I could scarf down. I knew then that the "unconventional" life was for me.
I remember falling asleep with my face on the feed tray of an M60 while waiting in ambush. The flare tripped, I woke up, fired one round and the piece of sh** jammed. So much for that.
I remember setting up an LZ for a STOL Porter from Langly. That was a special treat for an E-3 like me.
Long live Pineland.
sleepyhead4
09-30-2007, 03:55
Pain makes you remember things...
I remember standing for over 15 minutes in the plane waiting to jump into Pineland with a 100 LB plus ruck, weapon, LCE, and parachute/reserve.
Looking back on it, that was the most memorable jump I've ever done in my short army career.
Firewolf
10-05-2007, 19:21
A few auxiliary members ran a mule farm that had a litter of aussie shepherds. When we tucked tail out of our first G base, we hid in their barn, where I fell in love with a little shepherd that wouldn't leave me alone. It's been three years now and Whiskey 925, or just Whiskey, still won't leave me alone. Best dog I've ever had.