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NousDefionsDoc
10-01-2005, 13:44
"The U.S. generals running the war in Iraq presented a new assessment of the military situation in public comments and sworn testimony this week: The 149,000 U.S. troops currently in Iraq are increasingly part of the problem."

"During a trip to Washington, the generals said the presence of U.S. forces was fueling the insurgency, fostering an undesirable dependency on American troops among the nascent Iraqi armed forces and energizing terrorists across the Middle East."

"For all these reasons, they said, a gradual withdrawal of U.S. troops was imperative."

"American officials backtracked on their expectations of what the U.S. military can achieve in Iraq months ago. But this week's comments showed that commanders believe a large U.S. force in Iraq might in fact be creating problems as well as solutions."

--Mark Mazzetti, U.S. Generals Now See Virtues of a Smaller Troop Presence in Iraq
Los Angeles Times
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1. Blatantly and unashamdely stolen from Small Wars Journal
2. About time.
3. So General, what you're telling us is that you can't win hearts and minds from inside a Abrams with the hatches closed?
4. Is "backtracked expectations" the same as "revised the plan to address the evolving situation"?

504PIR
10-01-2005, 23:09
Granted I have just had 9 beers,

Granted I just got back from 2 months outside Fallujha,

Granted I have only been in Iraq about 14 months since April 04

IMHO we have to get out among the people, gain their trust (IE:get intell about the bad guys, then kill'm), lead, train & advise the local security forces, develope & maintain security so that they promote economic advancement (IE: if a man is working, making a better life for his family, see a positive future). THERE IS NO WAY WE CANNOT WIN.

Just wish we could get everybody else to see that. God I hope we don't screw this one up.

Aw hell, getting another beer. Can't have any next month when I go back.

Guy
10-03-2005, 18:07
NDD-

Just wait and see...

"The Kurds will make a move that, blows everyones mind!" :munchin

Take care.

CoLawman
10-03-2005, 21:26
NDD-

Just wait and see...

"The Kurds will make a move that, blows everyones mind!" :munchin

Take care.

Hmmmmmm.........Is this like a commercial break or something? What move......the Kurds? Do you mean.....like soon.....Come on, give it up! :munchin