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Gypsy
08-26-2005, 11:27
Since this issue is politically charged I'm posting this here.

When will the officials of our Country grab this problem by the you know what and get this under control? What the hell is it going to take?

Guess I'm feeling extremely anti-social, I say lock down the damn borders to the south AND the north.


http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2005-08-25T232112Z_01_MCC584026_RTRIDST_0_USREPORT-CRIME-IMMIGRATION-DC.XML


U.S. border patrol helicopter downed by illegals
Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:20 PM ET

By Dan Whitcomb

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A U.S. Border Patrol helicopter was forced to make an emergency landing after illegal immigrants pelted it with baseball-sized rocks, damaging a rotor, a spokesman for the agency said on Thursday.

There were no injuries as the helicopter's pilot was able to set the aircraft down just north of the All American Canal on the border between the U.S. and Mexico, Border Patrol spokesman Michael Gramley said.

Authorities say smugglers are becoming increasingly willing to use violence against border patrol agents as their trade becomes more profitable, with smugglers able to earn about $2,000 per person.

The helicopter pilot was responding to a call for help from agents on the ground on Tuesday evening when about 10 people on the south bank of the canal began hurling large rocks at the aircraft.

"One of the rocks struck one of the three rotors and the pilot instantly felt a bad vibration as he was flying," Gramley said. "He immediately made an emergency landing approximately 1 mile east of the incident."

Gramley said agents on the ground caught 17 people who had crossed to the north side of the canal but most of the 10 seen throwing rocks escaped back across the border. Mexican authorities were contacted but did not arrest them, he said.

"We believe these 10 subjects were involved in alien smuggling," he said. "We've seen an increased trend in the Yuma (Arizona) sector of violence by smugglers toward agents." The incident took place on the California-Mexico border close to the Arizona state line.

Team Sergeant
08-26-2005, 11:35
U A U.S. Border Patrol helicopter was forced to make an emergency landing after illegal immigrants pelted it with baseball-sized rocks,

I read this. I'd feel pretty stupid had my chopper been "downed" by rock throwing bad guys....... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

When/if the find the guy, five bucks says some American baseball league agent contacts him..... :rolleyes:

CoLawman
08-26-2005, 11:37
Guess I'm feeling extremely anti-social, I say lock down the damn borders to the south AND the north.

I concur, but think the southern border creates the greatest drain on resources, monies, and public safety. Put all of our energies south!

Gypsy
08-26-2005, 11:40
When/if the find the guy, five bucks says some American baseball league agent contacts him..... :rolleyes:

I laughed in spite of myself, someone somewhere else made a similar observation.

Gypsy
08-26-2005, 11:42
I concur, but think the southern border creates the greatest drain on resources, monies, and public safety. Put all of our energies south!

True, one has to wonder if the problem to the north doesn't get as much attention because of the south though.

Kyobanim
08-26-2005, 13:22
3 bladed helo. Hmmm, must be French made

VelociMorte
08-26-2005, 14:04
I thought they used BlackHawks...

CPTAUSRET
08-26-2005, 14:24
I saw a helicopter with a Montagnard (crossbow) arrow sticking out of it's belly.

Didn't bring it down though.

Terry

lrd
08-26-2005, 21:35
I thought they used BlackHawks...
Eurocopter A-Star.

Detcord
08-26-2005, 22:25
Yet another example of how illegals "contribute" to the U.S. economy...

jester_2005
08-27-2005, 07:29
I heard about this one at work yesterday and a couple of guys there were talking about how the crew should have taking a couple of pop shots at the people just to get them from throwing the rocks.

But, then one other one said, "should have killed them all, no need for them here."

I don't totally believe in that, because everyone is running from something, hoping to find something better. But, we have more illegal imgrants crossing our borders everyday then probaly any other country in the world.

What if we started jumping the Canadana border (for some damn reasson)? What would happen then.

lksteve
08-27-2005, 07:55
IWhat if we started jumping the Canadana border (for some damn reasson)? What would happen then.the reasons for illegals coming north are principally economic...i'm not sure Canada offers a promise of a better material life for Americans...and it can get damned cold up there...

jester_2005
08-27-2005, 09:45
the reasons for illegals coming north are principally economic...i'm not sure Canada offers a promise of a better material life for Americans...and it can get damned cold up there...


that and the fact that when most immagrants are caught they are held, given 3 good meals then shipped back paid for by the tax payers.

i've heard that we should like the germany's with the berlin wall, so that noone would be able to jump the border and if they do, shoot on sight.

jasonglh
08-27-2005, 10:03
the reasons for illegals coming north are principally economic...i'm not sure Canada offers a promise of a better material life for Americans...and it can get damned cold up there...

No but sending quite a few Americans up there would promise a better life for the rest of us. Some from the great white north would say thats whats wrong with Canada now. All those hippies that went to escape the draft stayed and now are teaching at the universities.


jester_2005 I see your location is Hopkinsville. All I can say is I'm sorry. :cool:

Come north about 60-70 miles and stop in the Tyson plant you wont be able to throw a rock without hitting an illegal. I cant say I blame Tyson that much though as none of the locals want to work there now matter what they pay.

Smokin Joe
08-27-2005, 10:07
Sounds like the Border Patrol needs to adapt the Team Sergeants theory on how to stop pursuits.... just mold it to the situation at hand.

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8299&postcount=43

You throw a rock we put a bullet .50 near you. Throw another rock= we put a bullet in you.

I understand that illegals want to come to this country...how to stop them, why we should, or should not, and everything lumped into them coming here is IMHO a different debate.

The illegals using violence to accomplish their mission needs to be meet with violence. Even if the illegals are on the Mexican side of the border. If they are close enough to hit an ICE agent with a rock or bullet they are close enough to be engaged by the ICE agents who are in danger.

Just my .02 cents

The Reaper
08-27-2005, 13:42
that and the fact that when most immagrants are caught they are held, given 3 good meals then shipped back paid for by the tax payers.

i've heard that we should like the germany's with the berlin wall, so that noone would be able to jump the border and if they do, shoot on sight.

jester, you may want to lurk and look around here for a bit before you jump into a conversation like this with both feet and limited skills.

TR