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Here's the story,
We were at one of our afghani checkpoints, and we were having them shoot some of there weapons. well one soldier wanted to shoot the 75mm recoiless rifle from his shoulder, and we were like....sure. well the video is what happened.
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/video/recoilless.wmv
This video is copy-righted by WWW.professionalsoldiers.com
Spartan359
08-01-2005, 21:30
Heh heh the tears.......gotta watch it again! :D
Here's the story,
We were at one of our afghani checkpoints, and we were having them shoot some of there weapons. well one soldier wanted to shoot the 75mm recoiless rifle from his shoulder, and we were like....sure. well the video is what happened. y'know, recoiless doesn't translate all that well... :eek:
Roguish Lawyer
08-01-2005, 22:03
LMAO! Thanks, MT!
The Reaper
08-01-2005, 22:16
Looks like he forgot to flip the switch to the "Recoilless" setting.
TR
EchoSixMike
08-02-2005, 01:22
What was wrong with the RCL? I've been told when they wore out they started recoiling forward?
How badly injured was the shooter? S/F.....Ken M
What was wrong with the RCL? I've been told when they wore out they started recoiling forward?
How badly injured was the shooter? S/F.....Ken M
Hey had some facial bruising, and knocked out a couple of his teeth. We sent him to the hospital, and he was back ready for duty the next day.
The recoiless rifle....When I was in DLI for Thai, the instructors discovered that I could NOT say that word (in Thai). They would twist every conversation with me so I had to say it....I just know it was so they could laugh at the different things that came out of my mouth. BTW, the literal translation of recoiless rifle from Thai is "the rifle that lacks the power to bounce backwards".
DDD
Polar Bear
08-02-2005, 05:49
All I get is the sound no video
Okay, my interest is piqued. Google tells me that the weapon is "recoilless" because it uses a perforated artillery cartridge and vented chamber which, in concert, allow some of the gases to be directed in the opposite direction from the point of aim, thus diminishing free recoil.
Is that the right idea? Also, doesn't that imply that a recoilless round is relatively low velocity? What is the advantage over a small, fin-stabilized rocket?
Team Sergeant
08-02-2005, 07:59
What was wrong with the RCL? I've been told when they wore out they started recoiling forward?
S/F.....Ken M
I guess you should not believe everything you hear..... ;)
Team Sergeant
08-02-2005, 08:11
I moved the thread here.
Not only is it funny but there is a weapons teaching point involved.
I've fired a number of recoiless rifles and none of them ever bit me.
Thanks Max, I've not laughed that hard in a while.
TS
CommoGeek
08-02-2005, 08:44
Max,
Do you have any objections to me placing it on our entertainment server here at Kandahar? Priceless.... thank you for sharing.
It's been about 23 years since I had my hands on a recoilless rifle of any type. IIRC some types had an adjusting plate(s) in the breach area for adjustment of back blast/recoil. Was the 57mm one of them?
Rule 26. Recoiless rifles - Aren't
Good stuff :)
That's what's known as deployment entertainment. :D
I got a good laugh.
Thanks Max_Tab
Doc
OK guys (18B/11B3S & 4S);
I gave you a few hours. We had a funny post about firing a 57mm RCL Rifle and I asked a question about adjusting the back blast/recoil. No replies yet.
Is the back blast/recoil on a 57mm/106mm RCL Rifle(s) set at "The Factory" or can it be adjusted by plates and screws at the Venturie (sp?) Port at the breach block?
Any considerations that need to be taken into acount when bore sighting the 57mm RCL vs the sight picture on the scope when "Bore Sighting".
Hey, I'm just a dumb 12B at heart. The finer points of the weapons MOS are lost on me. I do have a funny story about a 57mm RCL Rilfe I'll tell some day.
Pete
Roguish Lawyer
08-02-2005, 18:14
I do have a funny story about a 57mm RCL Rilfe I'll tell some day.
:munchin
Team Sergeant
08-02-2005, 20:47
OK guys (18B/11B3S & 4S);
I gave you a few hours. We had a funny post about firing a 57mm RCL Rifle and I asked a question about adjusting the back blast/recoil. No replies yet.
Is the back blast/recoil on a 57mm/106mm RCL Rifle(s) set at "The Factory" or can it be adjusted by plates and screws at the Venturie (sp?) Port at the breach block?
Any considerations that need to be taken into acount when bore sighting the 57mm RCL vs the sight picture on the scope when "Bore Sighting".
Hey, I'm just a dumb 12B at heart. The finer points of the weapons MOS are lost on me. I do have a funny story about a 57mm RCL Rilfe I'll tell some day.
Pete
You think I have FM 23-82 106-mm Recoilless Rifle M40A2 (30 July 1973)(+Change 1) just laying around?
(ugh, yeah, well I do and I'll look that up for you first thing in the morning... :rolleyes: )
TS
The Reaper
08-02-2005, 20:52
You think I have FM 23-82 106-mm Recoilless Rifle M40A2 (30 July 1973)(+Change 1) just laying around?
(ugh, yeah, well I do and I'll look that up for you first thing in the morning... :rolleyes: )
TS
I probably have one, in one of the six places I still have stuff stored.
Odds of finding it in a day? Less than zero.
Very organized, Top, I am proud of you.
TR
Max,
Do you have any objections to me placing it on our entertainment server here at Kandahar? Priceless.... thank you for sharing.
Naw go ahead, the more people who enjoy it, the better.
You think I have FM 23-82 106-mm Recoilless Rifle M40A2 (30 July 1973)(+Change 1) just laying around?
(ugh, yeah, well I do and I'll look that up for you first thing in the morning... :rolleyes: )
TS
For some reason a long time ago, I seem to recall a lot more pieces from a 57mm on the poncho in front of me. For something so simple as a a sight, bypod, tube and breach there sure seemed to be a lot of little parts floating around.
Kinda' like that critter that had the 11 cups and cones.
If your Interested QRQ 30, has a thumbnail in the 122 mm rocket discussion of a Ontos. I was T/Oed in it, MOS 0353. It had 6 recoiless rifles. Great little armor vehicle.
rubberneck
08-04-2005, 10:46
Max Tab,
I don't know if it will bother you but your video has been hijacked and posted here:
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/recoilrifle.html
Just though you should know.
Team Sergeant
08-04-2005, 13:47
Max Tab,
I don't know if it will bother you but your video has been hijacked and posted here:
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/recoilrifle.html
Just though you should know.
Thanks rubberneck.
They have been made aware the video was copied without permission, from this website.
TS
Smokin Joe
08-04-2005, 13:50
Whoever copied it and gave it to big-boys.com without permission needs to step up, admit it, then take your lumps and move out.
So, lets see if the thief has ANY integrity? :munchin
Oh BTW, in general its pretty easy to figure out who takes what off of your own server. Maybe that will give you some motivation.
Team Sergeant
08-04-2005, 14:08
If you are reading this go to the website that stole the video from this website, register, and make them aware (in the comments section) that the video was taken illegally from this copy righted website.
They will not allow me to register.
Thanks, Team Sergeant
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/recoilrifle.html
Funny clip, but value added to his compadres who may have had the same idea.
Kinda like the man at the indoor range with the rifle. Gotta find that clip again. Also good stuff.
If you are reading this go to the website that stole the video from this website, register, and make them aware (in the comments section) that the video was taken illegally from this copy righted website.
They will not allow me to register.
Thanks, Team Sergeant
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/recoilrifle.html
Posted my comment, the site will let you type in what you want for a comment but reduces your more colorful remarks to elementary school level remarks. :D
elmntskater1588
08-04-2005, 15:26
I saw it being discussed at MilitaryPhotos.net, now knowing it was stolen, ive removed my comment from there and added one over at bigboys to remove it.
Great video...I love a good laugh, Thanks :)
My Bncoc calss got a kick out of it.
thanx for the laughes god knows we needed it
I also found this video posted at a site call Compfused.com counldnt find a link to post that it had been stolen maybe some one here can contact the Admin there
I saw the Big Boys link on another forum and thought What the Fuck! Arseholes, it's not their bloody video.
The Reaper
08-07-2005, 08:06
Whoever let it get posted there has decresed the likelihood of you seeing something like that again here.
We will just put them where the only people who will see it will not post it elsewhere.
TR
Team Sergeant
08-07-2005, 09:45
Whoever let it get posted there has decresed the likelihood of you seeing something like that again here.
We will just put them where the only people who will see it will not post it elsewhere.
TR
Agree.
We cannot stop internet bottom feeders such as big-boys.com from stealing the movie, so we will no longer post them for the general public.
TS
rubberneck
08-07-2005, 10:49
We cannot stop internet bottom feeders such as big-boys.com from stealing the movie, so we will no longer post them for the general public.
That sucks but I understand why it has to be done. To the person who stole the video thanks for screwing up a good thing. :mad:
The Reaper
08-07-2005, 18:56
Agree.
We cannot stop internet bottom feeders such as big-boys.com from stealing the movie, so we will no longer post them for the general public.
TS
More like "Little-Boys.com".
TR
alphamale
08-07-2005, 19:35
This video is copy-righted by WWW.professionalsoldiers.comInteresting. RL, AL: Could professionalsoldiers.com get a small windfall of self-funding $$ from this theft of professionalsoldiers.com's video as taken by Max_Tab?
One single copyright violation from a stolen graphic cost a small business that was a client of my graphic artist $25,000 and put them out of business.
It would be great if some obnoxious thief like that website violates one of my copyrights by stealing a picture or video from my website. Injection molding machine is still needed.
So post lots of great video here. All with a specific professionalsoldiers.com copyright notice.
FrontSight
PS: What some discussion forums have started doing (which seems just as wrong) is to claim copyright over anything posted there by any member. According to vBulletin, even though the blanket copyright hasn't always held up in court precedents, it's unclear enough whether the person who posted a picture they took, then re-uses their picture on their website, could then be sued for copyright infringement for using their own picture.
Spartan359
08-07-2005, 20:05
Whoever copied it and gave it to big-boys.com without permission needs to step up, admit it, then take your lumps and move out.
So, lets see if the thief has ANY integrity? :munchin
Oh BTW, in general its pretty easy to figure out who takes what off of your own server. Maybe that will give you some motivation.
Ever find out who did it?
Smokin Joe
08-07-2005, 20:20
Ever find out who did it?
Why post it?
Its so much more fun to blind side them with a subpoena.
Or show up at there front door. :D
CommoGeek
08-07-2005, 22:06
The messed up thing is I asked if I could post it somewhere but haven't yet, and now I won't thanks to whoever it is that did it. So, whoever posted it without asking permission, thank you for screwing the rest of us that won't get to see things like that again.
Hell I passed the page link to two mates over MSN...and I know they haven't spread it around.
The Reaper
08-07-2005, 22:46
An old saying goes, "Two men can keep a secret, if one of them is dead."
There are people out there who would steal the pennies off a corpse's eyes.
Low indeed.
TR
Smokin Joe
08-07-2005, 22:48
Hell I passed the page link to two mates over MSN...and I know they haven't spread it around.
The thief better hope they have amazing PC skills to keep these hunters off their back.
I mean you have to be a freaking brain dead to steal from these guys.
The Reaper
08-07-2005, 23:00
The thief better hope they have amazing PC skills to keep these hunters off their back.
I mean you have to be a freaking brain dead to steal from these guys.
Or to post silly questions here in the first 15 minutes on the site, without reading any of the stickies, yet people do it anyway.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the internet people".
TR
Smokin Joe
08-07-2005, 23:12
Or to post silly questions here in the first 15 minutes on the site, without reading any of the stickies, yet people do it anyway.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the internet people".
TR
Unfortunately very true Sir.
I mean you have to be a freaking brain dead to steal from these guys.
It seems you haven't heard about the NZ Army's legendary hydraulic skills :D
FS, interesting suggestion.
I've been wondering about the copyright notices on articles posted. Many news sites have even explicitly listed that no redistribution is allowed. Problemos?
Martin
CoLawman
08-08-2005, 08:48
Agree.
We cannot stop internet bottom feeders such as big-boys.com from stealing the movie, so we will no longer post them for the general public.
TS
Hmmmmmmmmm.....trying to figure out how to lose the "general public" label.
Calling the recruiter now...........18X here I come!
Team Sergeant
08-08-2005, 08:55
Interesting. RL, AL: Could professionalsoldiers.com get a small windfall of self-funding $$ from this theft of professionalsoldiers.com's video as taken by Max_Tab?
One single copyright violation from a stolen graphic cost a small business that was a client of my graphic artist $25,000 and put them out of business.
It would be great if some obnoxious thief like that website violates one of my copyrights by stealing a picture or video from my website. Injection molding machine is still needed.
So post lots of great video here. All with a specific professionalsoldiers.com copyright notice.
FrontSight
PS: What some discussion forums have started doing (which seems just as wrong) is to claim copyright over anything posted there by any member. According to vBulletin, even though the blanket copyright hasn't always held up in court precedents, it's unclear enough whether the person who posted a picture they took, then re-uses their picture on their website, could then be sued for copyright infringement for using their own picture.
Nice suggestion. Now find me a hungry internet copyright attorney and I'll be more than happy to follow-up.
BTW big-boys was sent an email from me informing them this video was taken from this website illegally, 24 hours after they posted it.
Team Sergeant
08-08-2005, 09:04
Hmmmmmmmmm.....trying to figure out how to lose the "general public" label.
Calling the recruiter now...........18X here I come!
No problem, I do not consider you a "general public" member... ;)
The Reaper
08-08-2005, 09:09
BTW big-boys was sent an email from me informing them this video was taken from this website illegally, 24 hours after they posted it.
Did you ask if they can identify who posted it?
I am sure that they do not want troublesome members any more than we do. :D
TR
Team Sergeant
08-08-2005, 09:29
Did you ask if they can identify who posted it?
I am sure that they do not want troublesome members any more than we do. :D
TR
big-boys.com is in the internet 1000 club (#345 to be exact). Many porn websites are in the top internet site rankings.
Needless to say they are a huge internet presence. After viewing their material it seems they make a living “using” other’s videos and pictures, and now one of our member’s videos. I’m sure their money is made through advertising and the sheer number of visitors on their website. I’m also sure they are receiving millions of hits a day in order to rank #345 on the internet.
True internet bottom feeders.
Team Sergeant
alphamale
08-08-2005, 10:19
Hmmmmmmmmm.....trying to figure out how to lose the "general public" label.Me too !!!
Calling the recruiter now...........18X here I come!*Exactly*.
CoLawman, I have already claimed 18-XX status, and have passed the Killer Red fingernail polish XX-test, so I think I have a head-start on ya :D
FrontSight
Team Sergeant
08-08-2005, 10:36
Me too !!!
FrontSight
When monkeys fly out of my butt. :rolleyes:
CoLawman is a "real" law enforcement officer, which clearly delineates him from the term "general public".
TS
alphamale
08-08-2005, 10:51
::sniff::
Mean Team Sergeant,
No one has ever called me "General" :D
FrontSight
fusion94
08-08-2005, 12:12
Could this in anyway be construed as a violation of the DCMA? I've read the DCMA a few times but since IANAL it's greek to me.
TS: If you need any help tracking/tracing the offender just send me a PM as I currently work as a Software Engineer and know a thing or 2 about tracking crackers/idiots.
Team Sergeant
08-08-2005, 13:43
TS: If you need any help tracking/tracing the offender just send me a PM as I currently work as a Software Engineer and know a thing or 2 about tracking crackers/idiots.
I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.
fusion94
08-08-2005, 13:47
Sure thing no problem. I currently spend most of my day writing tools that catch then ban abusers of my employers services. If you ever need anything like that just let me know.
CoLawman
08-08-2005, 22:33
::sniff::
Mean Team Sergeant,
No one has ever called me "General" :D
FrontSight
TS, that is too too funny! Changing her title to General Public! Truly laughing out loud on that one!
CoLawman
08-08-2005, 22:37
Me too !!!
*Exactly*.
CoLawman, I have already claimed 18-XX status, and have passed the Killer Red fingernail polish XX-test, so I think I have a head-start on ya :D
FrontSight
Thanks for the advice FS! Went into the Recruiters with Red Fingernail Polish on, in anticipation of catching up to you..........The guy started yelling something about Don't Tell.........or Don't Ask...or Don't something. So I assumed he was referring to my advanced age. Needless to say I didn't get my contract!
:D
Maybe put a little notise on the originals through a video or photo editing proggie before posting them in the future?
Atleast I would be sad to see the movies and pictures dissapear completely in here :(
-Tetrian
Team Sergeant
08-09-2005, 08:08
Maybe put a little notise on the originals through a video or photo editing proggie before posting them in the future?
-Tetrian
Tetrian,
You find the software to place a w.w.wprofessionalsoldiers.com on the video and we'll again place them in public view.....
TS
Bravo1-3
08-09-2005, 15:17
Tetrian,
You find the software to place a w.w.wprofessionalsoldiers.com on the video and we'll again place them in public view.....
TS
TS,
That can be done with Windows Movie Maker.
Yep, what 1-3 said..
I tried putting the PS.com notise on the movie, but at GFs place atm, and kinda missing a place to upload it.
-Tetrian
Could always put a password on it maybe? Then it can be controlled a bit easier.
TS...I asked my ubergeek brother. He said you can layer that with something like Adobe Premiere. Basically, you put a "screen" of sorts over the existing video image, much like they overlay names/stats on a TV broadcast.
Just a heads up. I showed my buddy this Vid which is Funny as hell, But he said, Oh yeah I saw that on Compfused.com!!!
carbine
I have a 106mm FM right here in front of me, are we still looking for that answer to the adjustable thing-a-ma-jig?
I have a 106mm FM right here in front of me, are we still looking for that answer to the adjustable thing-a-ma-jig?
MAB, I could be wrong, I was TOed on the 106 (0353, Ontos Crewman). I don't remember any adjustment to them. Maybe the smaller recoiless rifles.
HOLLIS,
This FM dated May 1964 shows no known adjustment for backblast. Just lots and lots of "Do Not's and stay the h3ll away from the rear type" warnings. I have references to the other RL's and will check them out also to see if you could those.
Got a question for you, on the ONTOS could you fire all six guns at once if need be and there was no way to reload without being exposed was there?
HOLLIS,
Got a question for you, on the ONTOS could you fire all six guns at once if need be and there was no way to reload without being exposed was there?
I don't remember if firing all six guns could be done. Basically it was a anti-tank vehicle. There were two banks of 3 guns. Each bank had a 50 cal spotting rifle. The rifle was used to hit the target, and if it did, it was fired one more time with a 106 right behind.
The loader generally road on the outside of the ontos. 106s rounds were kept in the vehicle and under the rear hatch, there was a magazine. That was only accessable from the out side. The breech of each gun was only accessable from the out side.
The ontos also had a M 60 mounted on the center of the carrage of the 106s.
I have ten years experience in video production. I own a full line non-liner editing system running Adobe Premier Pro and using a Matrox RTX100 card. I also have Photoshop CS. I never said I know everything, but what I don’t know I have good, like mined people, that can help.
If this site ever needs video help, PM and I will see what I can do.
Thanks for the site,
JPH
Team Sergeant
10-13-2005, 09:24
I have ten years experience in video production. I own a full line non-liner editing system running Adobe Premier Pro and using a Matrox RTX100 card. I also have Photoshop CS. I never said I know everything, but what I don’t know I have good, like mined people, that can help.
If this site ever needs video help, PM and I will see what I can do.
Thanks for the site,
JPH
Roger JPH and thanks.
Team Sergeant
Team Sergeant
10-31-2005, 16:06
OK guys (18B/11B3S & 4S);
I gave you a few hours. We had a funny post about firing a 57mm RCL Rifle and I asked a question about adjusting the back blast/recoil. No replies yet.
Is the back blast/recoil on a 57mm/106mm RCL Rifle(s) set at "The Factory" or can it be adjusted by plates and screws at the Venturie (sp?) Port at the breach block?
Any considerations that need to be taken into acount when bore sighting the 57mm RCL vs the sight picture on the scope when "Bore Sighting".
Hey, I'm just a dumb 12B at heart. The finer points of the weapons MOS are lost on me. I do have a funny story about a 57mm RCL Rilfe I'll tell some day.
Pete
I lied, I don't have "Change 1".
But the back blast on the 106 is fixed. "Triangular in shape with the apex at the breech. It extends 39 meters to the rear and has a 46 meter base." It is divided into two zones, a danger zone and a caution zone."
NousDefionsDoc
10-31-2005, 16:22
It is divided into two zones, a danger zone and a caution zone."
Or, as I call it - Regulah and Extra Crispy :)
Bravo1-3
10-31-2005, 17:59
ROFLMAO... that isn't the first time I've heard that. :D
I participated in a live fire with the Philippine Marines where they were firing one of those. They seemed to skip the item on the gunners checklist to check backblast area quite a bit. Then again, they also seemed to skip the whole "Aim the gun" item too :eek: :confused: (and clean the gun, check the barrel for obstuctions, inspect ammo etc...)
support12
07-28-2008, 19:47
working with iraqi's and afghani's they seem want to learn the hard way
The Reaper
07-28-2008, 20:19
working with iraqi's and afghani's they seem want to learn the hard way
You might want to dig out that registration message and comply before reviving any more ancient threads.
TR