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The Reaper
07-31-2005, 16:21
To all who saw the recent flap over Judge Roberts' nomination and the speculation over whether he was ever a member of The Federalist Society, did you think that this was overblown?
Did you think that the coverage of The Federalist Society was positive or negative?
Here is the mission statement of The Federalist Society for those not familiar with the organization.
http://www.fed-soc.org/ourpurpose.htm
They are a charitable organization selectable under the Combined Federal Campaign.
TR
They are a charitable organization selectable under the Combined Federal Campaign.TR
I have no problem with the organization. I had known about them prior. I think the press gave a try at making them look like the Law Arm of the John Birch Society but gave up when they didn't get any traction.
As far as CFC. The most popular organization with us tended to be the Home For Un-Wed Mothers. We figured we had the closest contact with that organization and wanted to make sure they got something from us.
Yeah, Yeah. I know how the money is divided up but we could still have a soft spot for the UW Moms. :)
The Reaper
07-31-2005, 17:18
I have no problem with the organization. I had known about them prior. I think the press gave a try at making them look like the Law Arm of the John Birch Society but gave up when they didn't get any traction.
As far as CFC. The most popular organization with us tended to be the Home For Un-Wed Mothers. We figured we had the closest contact with that organization and wanted to make sure they got something from us.
Yeah, Yeah. I know how the money is divided up but we could still have a soft spot for the UW Moms. :)
Funny you mention that.
Our Company SGM always recommended the Home as his favorite too.
Beats some of the alternatives. Last time I checked the book, they had included everyone as a charity but the KKK and the Green Midget Anti-War Lesbian Vegetarian AIDS-ridden Communists for Gun Control.
TR
Roguish Lawyer
07-31-2005, 17:52
I missed it, but just looked this up:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/25/roberts.records.ap/index.html
Seems the issue is whether he was trying to cover up an affiliation with the group. As an active member, I can tell you that there are plenty of people who participate in events and things but are not formally members because they don't pay dues. Even some people in leadership positions neglect to pay dues for some reason. I don't know if he's been involved or not.
longrange1947
07-31-2005, 21:13
Pesonnaly, I think it shoudl be a requirement for nomination. :munchin
The Reaper
07-31-2005, 21:37
Pesonnaly, I think it shoudl be a requirement for nomination. :munchin
I like the way you think there, hermano.
Let me know when you are nominated, you will have my full support.
TR
longrange1947
07-31-2005, 21:48
Hell Reaper it is a no brainer. All that they ask is that the Constitution is "interpeted" in the manner that it is written, plain Queen's English, and that the judges NOT legislate from the bench.
Unlike the Libs that want the Judges to "Pass from on high" that legislation that the idiots can't get passed themselves.
Hell I love that idiot Schumer talking about mainstream. Does he not know that over half of the population disagrees with his thought processes and that Mainstream is not lib BS.
Hell brother, I'm not smart enough to be on the bench, and not crooked enough to be in politics. :D
The Reaper
07-31-2005, 21:55
Hell I love that idiot Schumer talking about mainstream. Does he not know that over half of the population disagrees with his thought processes and that Mainstream is not lib BS.
Obviously, over half of the people who voted for him in NY last time thought he represented their beliefs.
You can fool some of the people all of the time....
TR
longrange1947
07-31-2005, 22:10
Yeah, but look at the demographics of who votes for that fool and Hillary. take a look at the county votes against Bush and they match the idiots that vote for him and the female chameleon Hillary.
I am a member of the Federalist Society because they have good information and you have to be a member to access some of it.
I like this guy John Roberts and hope he is confirmed by an overwhelming majority of the Senate. Seeing as how I'm one of those damn liberals that should make all of you wonder whether he's the "right" man for the job! ROFLMAO!!
The Reaper
08-01-2005, 10:25
Latest quotes from the top of their newsletter.
No less appropriate here.
TR
"[W]hen People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders." --Samuel Adams
"Why, it appears that we appointed all of our worst generals to command the armies and we appointed all of our best generals to edit the newspapers. I mean, I found by reading a newspaper that these editor generals saw all of the defects plainly from the start but didn't tell me until it was too late. I'm willing to yield my place to these best generals and I'll do my best for the cause by editing a newspaper." --Robert E. Lee
The Reaper
08-08-2005, 11:16
More thoughts for this week from "The Federalist Patriot".
TR
"We are not to consider ourselves, while here, as at church or school, to listen to the harangues of speculative piety; we are here to talk of the political interests committed to our charge." --Fisher Ames
"If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just power from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions. If anyone wishes to deny their truth and their soundness, the only direction in which he can proceed historically is not forward, but backward toward the time when there was no equality, no rights of the individual, no rule of the people. Those who wish to proceed in that direction cannot lay claim to progress. They are reactionary." --Calvin Coolidge
"[W]e fight today because terrorists want to attack our country and kill our citizens -- and Iraq is where they are making their stand. So we will fight them there.... [W]e will fight them across the world -- and we will stay in the fight until the fight is won. ... We know that if evil is not confronted, it gains in strength and audacity, and returns to strike us again. We know that when the work is hard, the proper response is not retreat; it is courage.... When the history of this period is written, the liberation of Afghanistan and the liberation of Iraq will be remembered as great turning points in the story of freedom." --President George W. Bush
Did anyone read that Molly Ivins comlumn last week lambasting the Federalists and Roberts? She is often the featured editorialist in our local paper, when I saw her column I recalled reading about the Fed Society on this thread, after which I took a gander of their mission statement that TR provided. I found that I agreed with their goals and premise.
So I thought I'd give Ms. Ivins a read. See what the other side was fussing about. Basically she used the typical emotional buzzwords to get up the ire of her followers. Right wing extremists etc., And I thought what is so extremist about trying to present ideas to law students? Certainly no more extremist than what has occurred at any school. If she takes a position against the fed society would you say she takes a position that some ideas are bad and don't need to be examined? Anyhow, she pissed me off.
longrange1947
08-08-2005, 12:19
NG_M4 - Thankfully the Fayetteville Observer has dropped her leftist rantings for more calm leftest rantings. I no longer have to put up with her buzz word drivel, that has absolutely no basis in fact.
Also, it halved my high blood pressure medicine when they dropped the b***h. :D
Bravo1-3
08-08-2005, 12:27
Molly Ivins? The same Molly Ivins who wrote last month that the United States has killed as many Iraqi's in the last 2 years as Saddam did in 20? If she's a'gin it, I'm for it! :D
LongRange,
I have my suspicions about our own editor-in -chief here in Redding, CA. Were a very RED county, in a very Blue state, unfortunately with the cost of real estate in the very blue counties as high as it is, we are getting a mass influx of blue.
Our editor changed hands a couple of years ago, since then the paper hasnt been the same. Either has the town. I need to pack up and move 100 miles north to Oregon where you can still buy guns.
longrange1947
08-08-2005, 17:28
That's a shame, those suckers can ruin their own nest and then move to ruin the others' nests as well. They make up laws that causes home costs to spiral ever upward and then complain about it and move to another place where they press for the same laws.
You have my sympathy man! Good luck with the new idiots in town.
The Reaper
08-10-2005, 10:01
The latest from The Patriot:
"What was new about [the atom bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki] was the technology, not the morality. More people were killed with ordinary bombs in German cities or in Tokyo. Vastly more people were killed with ordinary bullets and cannon on the Russian front. Morality is about what you do to people, not the technology you use." --Thomas Sowell
"In a televised address Friday, [Tony] Blair said, 'We welcome people here who share our values and our way of life.' The problem in Britain and the rest of Europe -- and increasingly in the United States -- is that we have forgotten what those values are. We have subordinated them to the nonspecific to avoid offending a particular group or culture not endemic to the host country." --Cal Thomas ++
"Media stories about the London bombing suspects suggest they became radicalized because of the 'oppression of Muslims around the world.' While it's true that hundreds of millions of Muslims live in miserable circumstances, who's actually responsible for that oppression? Fifty nations boast Muslim majorities and not one of them boasts economic prosperity and a functioning democracy. ... The true oppressor of Muslims is Islam itself, with teachings that destroy any chance of progress, peace or freedom." --Michael Medved
NG_M4 - Thankfully the Fayetteville Observer has dropped her leftist rantings for more calm leftest rantings. I no longer have to put up with her buzz word drivel, that has absolutely no basis in fact.
Not to drive your blood pressure up but she was an Opinion writer rather than say an investigative reporter. She doesn't have to be as on topic as those guys. That doesn't mean she should be able to write total lies either. George Will makes me nuts but every now and then he has something worthwhile to say.
Here's what Tim White had to say about the dropping of Ivins and John Leo -
We’re saying goodbye to John Leo and Molly Ivins, whose work has gotten too worn and predictable for my taste, and hello to a trio of columnists, Charles Krauthammer, Froma Harrop and Joe Galloway.
I thought Ivins was a fraud and Leo is tired bordering on dull. Joe Galloway was a really good choice for the Fayetteville paper.
The Reaper
08-15-2005, 10:34
The latest quotes:
"Every child in America should be acquainted with his own country. He should read books that furnish him with ideas that will be useful to him in life and practice. As soon as he opens his lips, he should rehearse the history of his own country." --Noah Webster
"On this showing, the nature of the breakdowns of civilizations can be summed up in three points: a failure of creative power in the minority, an answering withdrawal of mimesis on the part of the majority, and a consequent loss of social unity in the society as a whole." --Arnold Joseph Toynbee
"Tolerating intolerance, goodhearted people are beginning to see, does not necessarily produce tolerance in turn. ... Multiculturalism is based on the lie that all cultures are morally equal. In practice, that soon degenerates to: All cultures are morally equal, except ours, which is worse. But all cultures are not equal in respecting representative government, guaranteed liberties and the rule of law. And those things arose not simultaneously and in all cultures, but in certain specific times and places -- mostly in Britain and America, but also in various parts of Europe. In America, as in Britain, multiculturalism has become the fashion in large swathes of our society. So the Founding Fathers are presented only as slaveholders, World War II is limited to the internment of Japanese-Americans and the bombing of Hiroshima. Slavery is identified with America, though it has existed in every society and the antislavery movement arose first among English-speaking evangelical Christians. But most Americans know there is something special about our cultural heritage. ... Mutilculturalist intellectuals do not think our kind of society is worth defending. But millions here and increasing numbers in Britain and other countries know better." --Michael Barone
"I think the so-called conservative is today what was, in the classic sense, the liberal. The classical liberal, during the Revolutionary time, was a man who wanted less power for the king and more power for the people. He wanted people to have more say in the running of their lives and he wanted protection for the God-given rights of the people. He did not believe those rights were dispensations granted by the king to the people, he believed that he was born with them. Well, that today is the conservative." --Ronald Reagan
tyrsnbdr
08-15-2005, 16:50
TR, these quotes are great. I really like General Lee's quote. Please keep them coming.