Britain Wants to Expel Preachers of Hate

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http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=\ForeignBureaus\archiv e\200507\FOR20050715a.html


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[Bravo1-3]

As long as they expel them into the English Channel, I'm all for it.

[Spartan359]

As long as they expel them into the English Channel, I'm all for it.

You got it all wrong bravo1-3. Just send them to France. Let them have some fun with the frogs. :D

[Bravo1-3]

You got it all wrong bravo1-3. Just send them to France. Let them have some fun with the frogs. :D

Sure, as long as they use a Trebuchet to send them... they can send them HERE if they like. :D

[Spartan359]

Sure, as long as they use a Trebuchet to send them... they can send them HERE if they like.

HAHA the only things i can think of with that comment is the scene in Montey Python's Search for the Holy Grail......"Launch the Cow!!!" :D

[jasonglh]

I would say in this case a pig would make a better projectile. :cool:


Why kick them out now? They have done such a wonderful job of creating a safe haven for them.

[NousDefionsDoc]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...ge_id=1770&ct=5



Omar Bakri: He's an extremist
on benefits and says Blair clampdown
is 'not fair'

An extreme Muslim cleric whose family have been living on benefits in Britain for 20 years says it would not be 'fair' to deport him. Speaking after the Prime Minister announced his clampdown, father-of-seven Sheik Omar Bakri said: "I have wives, children, sons-in-law, daughters-in-law. It would be hard on my family if I was deported."

Since Syrian-born Bakri settled in Britain, he and his extended family have raked in benefits amounting to at least £300,000 ($530,000 USD; ed.).

He is registered disabled because of an injury to his leg during his childhood, and was recently supplied with a £31,000 ($55,000 USD; ed.) Ford Galaxy under the Motability scheme.

Bakri, who lives in a £200,000 ($355,000 USD; ed.) home in North London, tops up his £250-a-week benefit payments with an extra £50 incapacity allowance.

He has praised the September 11 terrorists as 'magnificent', called Israel 'a cancer' and said homosexuals should be 'thrown from Big Ben'.

In January, he declared that Britain had become a 'land of war', and called on Muslims to unite behind Al Qaeda. He has supported suicide bombings and urged his followers to kill non-Muslims ' wherever, whenever'.

He also claimed he has no wish to stay in Britain, but his family would suffer if he was deported.

"If they want to change the law and say that people who are here must live within the framework of those rules, then that is fine," said the 45-year-old cleric.

"But they cannot punish people by backdating it for 20 years or so.

"That is not a smart or fair system. Tony Blair should have charged me years ago if that was the case. He did not because I had done nothing wrong."

Bakri also claimed he had tried to dissuade affected young Muslims from carrying out terror attacks in Britain, by telling them that under Islamic law it would be wrong to target a country in which they were living.
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[Doc]

Sounds like he was westernized pretty well. Loves the freebies, doesn't do anything for the "system, talks smack and now that he's getting called on it, cries boo hoo.

:boohoo

Doc who's glad to see this sort of thing finally happening.

[Doc]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1723202,00.html



August 06, 2005

I killed US troops, British al-Qaeda gunman claims
By Daniel McGrory



A MASKED British gunman claiming to be fighting with al-Qaeda in Afghanistan appeared on an Arabic satellite channel yesterday describing how he killed a team of US Special Forces. His claim came just hours after Tony Blair warned that Britons who boast about supporting terror groups like al-Qaeda or attend their training camps face immediate arrest if they attempt to return home.


This broadcast, aired on the al-Aribiya channel, is seen as timely propaganda coming a day after after al-Qaeda’s second in command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, threatened more terror attacks in London.

Security services here will study the broadcast to try to identify the man. UK intelligence agencies admit that they do not know how many Britons are with terrorist outfits abroad. This alleged fighter, who did not reveal his identity but spoke in a broad northern accent, described how he took part in the attack on a US Chinook helicopter in June.

Sixteen Americans were killed when their helicopter was shot down as they were reportedly searching for Osama bin Laden. This was the biggest single loss of US Special Forces in the war in Afghanistan. A Kalashnikov rifle is slung across his chest, and he raises his finger to the cameras as the unnamed Briton threatens to kill more Americans and Jews.

He is wearing combat fatigues and his face is covered by a balaclava. The fighter was then joined on screen by another man who also claimed to be British and who spoke with a Northern Ireland accent.

The mens’ identities and nationalities could not be confirmed last night. Al-Arabiya did not say when these men when or where the pair were filmed. The two were also flanked by a French-born fighter who echoed the Britons’ threats.

Up to 3,000 young Britons are said to have been trained at al-Qaeda camps in countries like Afghanistan, according to Sir John Stevens, the recently retired Scotland Yard commissioner. Intelligence agencies admit that they do not know what happened to most of these volunteers. None of the Britons who attended these training camps were arrested on their return home.

Al-Arabiya is one of a clutch of independent Arabic satellite news channels set up in the past few years. It was founded in March 2003 and is run from Dubai but has correspondents all over the world.Like its best known rival, al-Jazeera , it has been condemned by the US as a purveyor of anti-American propaganda and accused of “inciting violence” in Iraq.

[dave411]

"Up to 3,000 young Britons are said to have been trained at al-Qaeda camps in countries like Afghanistan, according to Sir John Stevens, the recently retired Scotland Yard commissioner."

Makes you wonder how many US trained there are. :rolleyes:

[Doc]

dave411

I see you filled out your profile for Kyo.

How about post an intoduction in the base camp forum and tell us a little bit about yourself.

Doc

[Roguish Lawyer]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/12/AR2005081200503.html

Islamic Cleric Banned From Returning to Britain

By Kevin Sullivan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, August 12, 2005; 12:33 PM

LONDON, Aug. 12 -- British authorities on Friday banned a radical Islamic cleric who has lived in the country for twenty years as part of the government's offensive against religious extremismfollowing train and bus bombings last month in London.

Home Secretary Charles Clarke, in a statement issued through a spokesman, said that Omar Bakri Mohammed's permission to live in Britain was canceled and that he would not be allowed to return to the country from Lebanon, where he flew last weekend.

Bakri was banned "on the grounds that his presence is not conducive to the public good," the statement said.

"This is completely predictable; it's just the final manifestation of their war on Muslims," Anjem Choudary, a close associate of Bakri in London, said in an interview.

"It's completely outrageous; all he has done is propagate Islam here. Where are all the values they say they stand for: freedom of speech, freedom of expression, the right of innocence until proven guilty?" Choudary said. "Muslims will see this as a great victory for Islam and they will see that Islam is the superior ideology. The flip side of democracy is dictatorship."

But others among Britain's two million Muslims expressed satisfaction at the banning of Bakri, whose organization was singled out by Prime Minister Tony Blair last Friday in a speech outlining new measures to punish those who promote or incite terrorism. Bakri has been the subject of angry tabloid headlines recently for saying that he would not inform police if he knew of another planned terror attack on the United Kingdom.

"Most Muslims are happy he's gone," said Asghar Bukhari, of the Muslim Public Affairs Committee, a London-based pro-democracy group that advocates Muslim involvement in democratic process rather than violence. "I don't think Muslims ever bought that he was a threat to national security, but he was such a vocal pain in the backside that he increased racial tensions in the country."

Still, Bukhari said in an interview, many Muslims question whether the government acted properly by banning Bakri.

"If he was not advocating violence, do we just throw people out because they are nasty people?" he said. "Was he really a threat, or was the government reacting to media headlines demonizing him?"

Debate over the balance between civil liberties and national security is raging in Britain following the announcement of Blair's proposals, followed by the government's decision Thursday to detain ten foreign nationals and deport them for being a "threat to national security."

Human rights activists and opposition politicians say Blair's government is going too far in its response to last month's bombings, which killed more than 50 people and wounded more than 700. Police said the attacks were carried out by young Muslim men largely from the country's Pakistani and East African communities.

Although Britain has long prided itself on its tolerance of free speech and immigrants that other countries considered undesirables, Blair said the "mood" in Britain was changing and required a crack-down on religious leaders and others who promote or "glorify" acts of violence.

Those rounded up on Thursday are said to include Abu Qatada, a radical cleric who investigators said is closely tied to the al Qaeda terror network. Clarke said Thursday that a new agreement with Jordan, Qatada's home country, provided assurances that deportees would not be tortured or mistreated, allowing British officials to deport him there without violating British human rights laws.

Qatada's lawyers and human rights officials have complained that the agreement with Jordan provides no guarantee that he won't be tortured and they have protested the planned deportations. Lawyers for the men are expected to appeal the deportations, which could set up a showdown between the government and judges who have recently overruled aspects of Britain's anti-terrorism laws passed after the Sept. 1, 2001 terror attacks on New York and the Pentagon.

Lord Falconer, Britain's highest judicial official, said Friday that the government was considering legislation that would require government officials and the courts to weigh both human rights and national security concerns in deportation cases.

"We've got to get the right balance," Falconer told the BBC Radio 4's Today program. "Nobody suggests for one moment that that would remove from the judges any degree of discretion in determining individual cases."

[Spartan359]

A MASKED British gunman claiming to be fighting with al-Qaeda in Afghanistan appeared on an Arabic satellite channel yesterday describing how he killed a team of US Special Forces. His claim came just hours after Tony Blair warned that Britons who boast about supporting terror groups like al-Qaeda or attend their training camps face immediate arrest if they attempt to return home.




A team of Special Forces? Someone is having delusions of grandeur. Careful you don't step in the bullshit.